Scott and Kevin,
There is another thread via the community forum about the desire to use slack for "quick -- not important-- exchanges" on the Jakarta EE Project. Sadly the email archive interface to find that thread doesn't make it possible for me to find that conversation. :(
Summary of that thread, Slack for Jakarta's collaborative work shouldn't exit.
Many Jakartees stated that they prefer to avoid altogether the usage of another "debt-communication tool" to do any work to move this project forward.
Using the ASF collaboration tool, IF a discussion didn't arrive at its respective mailing list, it didn't happen at all.
Email lists enable focus on projects, topics, etc.
Slack, even if paid is just not efficient for tracing how things are pushed forward.
For everyone,
Jakarta EE ecosystem wants to enable anyone wishing to help (contributor/user) to do so easily without having to decide on owning the project's multiple tools.
Too many tools convert negatively to higher debt to keep up with and substain.
This is the community who gets to figure out what it protects. I thought that thread was enough to drop that Jakarta Slack channel yet I see us still talking about it and protecting it even after healthy feedback that it ought to be difficult to ignore.
At the end of the day, lowering the barrier to entry to help in any OSS source project is one of the most important goals there is.
It states clearly to anyone watching, that the ecosystem is grounded & fully aware of the limited time its contributor (s). It says, it respects that time and protects it.
It pays most attention to proactively cutting communication debts.
For me, Slack in OSS can become EXTRA bothersome if many in the group choose to connect via "private exchanges" instead of public channels for example.
Scaling has to count for much of enabling others to stand besides us and not behind us, right?
Collaboration in Slack will minimize the forum email conversations in the short and long term, it will cut diverse voices & ideas from those missing "joining that debt"...
With that said, like many others-- I won't be joining that slack group. There is no value and that is my choice. That also means that I am choosing to be side-track and surprise potentially in a bad form when stuff just shows up and I am informed about it. Is that what we want to increase in this ecosystem?
I will continue to use the respective jakarta email forums to participate.
PS: Added Jkta community forum.
happy Friday Jakartees,