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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Community help request

I am a committer, but I’m not sure, if I’m subscribed t that list yet.

 

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From: Ed Bratt
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 17:34
To: Werner Keil
Cc: Jakara EE community discussions
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Community help request

 

Werner,

If you haven't, you might also reach out on the developer list -- openmq-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx. I believe it's an open list (as they all are), any Eclipse member can join and you don't need to be a project committer.

-- Ed

 

On 8/28/2018 8:21 AM, Werner Keil wrote:

Ed,

 

Thanks for the heads up. 

Should e.g. Payara who has strong ties to Glassfish be interested, that could be an option, but like in other cases should a double lead also be an option, I could help here. I am project lead of another Eclipse project and I know despite some other trends and approaches for asynchronous message handling JMS/MQ are often a key part of Enterprise infrastructures across industries.

 

Werner

 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 4:57 PM Ed Bratt <ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Werner

Nigel may be on holiday. His role in Eclipse Open MQ was intended to be transitional. He has approved PRs that have come up but there haven't been many. I don't know why he isn't shown as Lead.

If someone has an interest in this project, we will try to make a transition happen smoothly. I am trying to line up some support -- if that's what you would like.

-- Ed

 

On 8/28/2018 7:43 AM, Werner Keil wrote:

Wayne,

 

Thanks for the update also to the contributors page. Based on being Spec Lead earlier that makes sense, but we may have to discuss in the project list for OpenMQ, whether or not Nigel's new roles and duties inside Oracle still allows him to lead the project as he did with the JSRs.

 

While the API/spec probably makes sense and has relevance to David the strong Apache ties of Tomitribe may mean a little less relevance to them compared to ActiveMQ, hence he is not even a committer there at the moment.

 

Werner

 

 

 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 4:21 PM Wayne Beaton <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Any committer can initiate a vote to add a new committer or project lead. Any nomination should include a statement of merit which will become part of the public record. Existing project committers must then vote on the nomination. If after a week, we have at least three positive votes and no negative votes, the election is declared successful. Note that the PMC needs to approve all votes; their main role is to ensure that the process has been correctly followed.

 

There's more information in the handbook.

 

HTH,


Wayne

 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So can any committer initiate such vote after asking potential candidates?

 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 2:37 PM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

According to EF rules any committer can apply for leadership, or nominate others for leadership. If a project has no lead, you should ask the committers to elect (at least) one.

 

From: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Werner Keil
Sent: Dienstag, 28. August 2018 14:33
To: Jakara EE community discussions
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Community help request

 

Dmitry,

 

I'll create tickets especially for OpenMQ in areas that seem unclear or need verification.

 

Btw, is there a concept behind some projects like OpenMQ being without a lead, while others (e.g. JMS) have Tomitribe/David, and at least one other project even has 2 or more project leads?

(not looking at EE4J top level, where sharing this could be a strategic decision)

 

Werner 

 

 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 12:38 PM Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dmitry,

 

Thanks for the update. Especially for the C client and packaging module it has to be confirmed, if they work in the JIPP.

For others I created issues and saw these confirmed, so I will prune some of these jobs.

 

Werner

 

 

 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 11:34 AM Dmitry Kornilov <dmitry.kornilov@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

 

On 28 Aug 2018, at 11:07, Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Thanks for the overview.

 

@Dmitry is this also the view by PMC, Steering Committee or Eclipse officials?

 

We would love to see some consistency, but we also respect projects teams decisions. IMO, what Markus is done is fine.

 

I made two builds work in OpenMQ, but there could be special requirements e.g. native build jobs that have to be verified, if the necessary slaves are available. I helped a highly distributed Automotive project with their Jenkins infrastructure, there special slaves e.g. for a particular compiler etc. were a key aspect. It may be a little less complex here (maybe for IoT there are similar needs at Eclipse ;-) but MQ is among the projects that have native build-chains and also tight integration with the Glassfish project, which may need to be done in its JIPP rather than OpenMQ.

 

Thanks, Werner! Does it mean that I can mark the build task for OpenMQ as done?

Feel free to ask Eclipse webmasters about slaves, etc. in EE4J build mailing list: ee4j-build@xxxxxxxxxxx

 

— Dmitry

 

 

Werner 

 

 

 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:11 AM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Every project is free to do it as they please. There is no need for consistency among projects, and consistency even might be an obstacle to some extend. A project not even needs to have CI at all. At JAX-RS we only have two jobs in JIPP: Nightly build (pushed into EF's Nexus) and Release build (pushed into OSSRH's Nexus).

-Markus

 

From: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Werner Keil
Sent: Montag, 27. August 2018 22:52
To: Jakara EE community discussions
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Community help request

 

What about Jersey?

https://ci.eclipse.org/jersey/ has two jobs, is that sufficient for RI projects?

(OpenMQ has 5, but for the sake of consistency, I'd like to get the *-continuous build to run without errors for now)

 

Unfortunately the OpenMQ jobs were set up entirely different, one or more point to repositories that don't seem to be in Eclipse-EE4J at all.

 

Werner 

 

 

 

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:49 PM Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Are there multiple pipelines for JAX-RS?

Because https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jaxrs-api has a build badge for Travis-CI, not Jenkins.

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:08 PM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes please mark it as done.

 

From: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dmitry Kornilov
Sent: Montag, 27. August 2018 13:24
To: Jakarta EE community discussions
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Community help request

 

Markus, can I mark JAX-RS release CI/CD pipeline task as done here:

 

— Dmitry

 

On 27 Aug 2018, at 13:18, Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

I requested a JIPP earlier this year for our Nightly Builds and simply set up an additional job for staging on OSSRH.

-Markus

 

From: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Werner Keil
Sent: Montag, 27. August 2018 13:17
To: Jakara EE community discussions
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Community help request

 

Did you request the JIPP for that or was it there already?

 

 

 

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:13 PM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

JAX-RS API: Release pipeline done, Github Task closed, Release 2.1.1 for EE4J_8 is staged on OSSRH. Next: Filing release review.

-Markus

From: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dmitry Kornilov
Sent: Montag, 27. August 2018 11:42
To: Jakarta EE community discussions
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Community help request

 

Hi folks,

 

Here is the latest state of CI/CD pipelines work:

 

There is a little progress since last week (almost nothing). If I missed something please report your progress here. There are still a lot of projects waiting for volunteers. I am requesting the community to be more active.

 

Thanks,

Dmitry

 

 

On 21 Aug 2018, at 17:19, Elder Moraes <elder.moraes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Hi folks,

 

I'm traveling this week with lots of meetings, but next week I'll start working on it.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Elder

 

Twitter: @elderjava

 

 


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