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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] About Profiles
A given distribution incorporating implementations from different vendors is just a detail. What matters is that the distribution has gone through the trouble of certifying the behavior of a test suite/TCK for a profile that provides some level of confidence that a user can write applications that combine a the apis from a profile and have the app run on different distributions.

This is also the point of profile specification in my view. A given spec should not be making references to every other possible spec they can be combined with. Rather, a profile specification should define the integration requirements and have corresponding TCK tests for validation of those requirements.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:34 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Richard Monson-Haefel <rmonson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
...

 
I believe that Glassfish and IBM fully implement Java EE 8 but no one would be required to implement the full profile.

They provide the full platform, but don't implement it fully themselves.

GlassFish for instance bundles Weld (CDI), and Hibernate Validator (Bean Validation).

IBM bundles MyFaces (JSF), OWB (Weld), EclipseLink (JPA), BVal (Bean Validation), etc.

 
That’s the whole point of having sub-profiles. 

That's more the definition of a sub-profile, not necessarily the point of it ;) 

 
I'm not sure if a bloated product line-up with a dozen profiles really makes things easier for users.

It’s not boated, it simple the largest profile from which the sub-profiles are derived.

Just to be sure, I didn't mean the full profile is bloated, but that having a plethora of different profiles makes for a bloated product line-up.

I was just remembered today about the many models that Apple had in its line-up before Steve Jobs returned. One of the first things Steve Jobs did was to slash all those barely different models (essentially, "profiles" of a base Mac model), and simplify things by having a small product line-up.

Kind regards,
Arjan




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