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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Which will be the initial Versioning Number for the first version of Jakarta EE

Bill -

This has been discussed prior to the formation of the Steering Committee, and what Mike says was the consensus.   But I don't believe the topic has been reviewed/formalized during a Steering Committee meeting.   I think it makes sense to have the discussion at Steering Committee and formalize the conclusion.

Will


On 5/1/18 1:23 PM, Bill Shannon wrote:
Yes, I think the numbering scheme can be decided independently of the cadence.  With choice #1, the cadence might require you to skip some numbers.

If the steering committee already considered alternatives such as those below and explicitly decided that the first number is "8", that should be recorded somewhere.  Is it?

My impression from those discussions was that this was never explicitly considered and that "8" was just an informal placeholder while we discussed more important topics.  If you think the steering committee is the group that should decide this explicitly, I can raise this issue there.

Mike Milinkovich wrote on 5/1/18 8:22 AM:
Bill, et al,

Question: Do you think we can realistically answer this question without knowing what the Jakarta EE release cadence and timing is going to be? And since we are quite a ways away from knowing that release cadence, perhaps we could defer this decision until that time?

I *think* the Steering Committee has already decided that the very first release of Jakarta EE will be numbered as "8". I think that is enough to go on for at least the next six months, is it not?

That said, I think that the discussion has been valuable. There's lots of good ideas and information in this thread.


On 2018-04-30 5:07 PM, Bill Shannon wrote:
I think we've been using "8" or "8.0" as an informal way of indicating that it will be compatible with Java EE 8, but I think we should make an explicit decision about how to do version numbering for Jakarta EE once we have the right group in place to make that decision.  I'm not clear on whether that would be the Steering Committee, the Specification Committee, or the Jakarta EE Platform project.

Once we're clear on who gets to make the decision, I see three obvious choices:
  1. Continue the Java EE version numbering approach with Jakarta EE X being based on Java SE X, for all values of X.  With the new rapid release cycles of Java SE, that might mean skipping some version numbers to allow Jakarta EE to stay in sync with Java SE.
  2. Start with Jakarta EE 8 and increment the version number for each release, making a separate and explicit decision as to what version of Java SE to base each release on.
  3. Since so much of Jakarta EE is a break from the past, start over with Jakarta EE 1, incrementing the version number for each release.

Independently of the above is the decision of whether or not to use minor version numbers, and if so for what purpose.



Dmitry Kornilov wrote on 04/30/18 03:53 AM:
8.0

— Dmitry

On 30 Apr 2018, at 12:28, Alexander Salvanos <salvanos@xxxxxx> wrote:

Hi everybody,
 
So far, we had agreed that the first version of Jakarta EE should technologically be conform to the state of Java EE 8 technologies and no further additions should be added. Is this still the plan? And if we so, what version number should we use for this initial version of Jakarta EE? Currently, I was thinking it will be Jakarta 1.0. But, in the email conversion Jakarta 8.0 appeared as well.
 
Best Regards,
Alex
 
 
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