Re: [ide-dev] Link from inside Eclipse IDE to how to contribute

[Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>]

Mickael,

I did expect such reactions...

This morning I noticed that occasionally Eclipse pops up a little non-modal bubble from the feeds:

It's rather unobtrusive and no one has complained about it, yet.  :-P

It would seem to me that this might well be a reasonable place to hook in another feed that would pop up messages and do so in a way that seems to have been deemed acceptable, I expect because it's non-modal, not thrown in the middle of the user's face, and has the option to opt-out. 

If the information content of the new feed were useful/relevant, people will be more inclined to look at the content, e.g., something like tips and tricks where I could learn about the latest cool new features available with the latest new release, or some capabilities that I might not realize existed in my IDE.  How many users use JDT daily and yet don't know they can set an exception breakpoint, or that they can add tracing via print statements in a conditional breakpoint?  Quite a few I bet!   Such a feed could include an occasional "funding drive", or "how to get involved" drive, or whatever clever marketing idea you or someone else might have in the future.

Cheers,
Ed

On 03.10.2017 20:15, Mickael Istria wrote:

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You will not do this to the C/C++ IDE package. I prefer to treat it as the product it is and to represent the Eclipse community with professionalism. Is it marketing? Yes. But that’s how I believe you grow communities of professional developers who use and contribute to your project.

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I will clarify something though. The vast majority of C/C++ IDE users don’t know Java and aren’t Tools developers. Putting this message in front of them won’t help that situation and will only make them feel bad that they can’t help out. I don’t want them to feel bad. I want them to be happy they have such a great tool to use.

Did you actually read entirely my various messages before posting this answer? I have the impression this comment ignores most of the concrete points that have been discussed.

First, I stated multiple times already that despite I think a pop-up is not as bad as most people here estimate, it doesn't seem necessary for this as just introducing a menu item does provide a good visibility.

Then, it's been mentioned also a few times that the idea was to link to the "How To Contribute" page which doesn't require any Java knowledge as it's not only about code and can give ways to any user (including the C/C++ IDE users) to actually do something. The page presents many ways to contribute, and the simplest ones aren't something that require any skill. So people who see this page wouldn't feel unable to contribute, they can feel unwilling to contribute; and if it happens, then that's fine.

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