Re: [ide-dev] Link from inside Eclipse IDE to how to contribute

["Daniel Megert" <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Mickael

Here my opinion on your thoughts:

> * Replace the Welcome page by the "How to contribute
page".
That is a no go for me. The Welcome
page allows (new) projects to advertise their stuff. As pointed out before,
adding a link/item that advertises how to contribute is a good idea. I
suggest to implement that.

> * An occasional -or on every startup- popup with
a reminder and a link to the page 
Anything intrusive like that during
startup is a no go for me and considered spam.

> * Occasionally -or on every startup- just showing
up the webpage
Anything intrusive like that during
startup is a no go for me and considered spam.

> * A link in the About dialog
Fine with me.

> * A menu item in the Help menu
Fine with me.

I also saw some ideas to pollute views
with ads/links to the contribute wiki. That is spam too for me.

Dani



From:      
 Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:      
 Discussions about the
IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:      
 29.09.2017 13:55
Subject:    
   [ide-dev] Link
from inside Eclipse IDE to how to contribute
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Hi all,

As I'm chatting with unsatisfied former Eclipse IDE users
and freeloaders (it's one of my hobbies), I have the impression the Eclipse
IDE didn't manage to turn users into contributors because it doesn't fully
embrace its "community" model. So they weren't ready (or even
tempted) to pay for Eclipse IDE years ago, and now, they're paying for
alternative IDEs.
Indeed, there have been many efforts to ship the Eclipse
IDE like a product, and users consider it as a product, and they complain
like customers when something is failing for them, and upon big disappointment,
they switch to competition instead of considering to help.
Targeting a product quality is a good goal, but it's also
vital that end-users understand that the IDE depends on their contributions.
We mustn't hide that, on the contrary, we must highlight it in the IDE.

So I think we need a visible place inside the IDE to turn
some users into contributors (report bug, contribute patches, donate money).
This could simply be a link or a menu, when clicked, that would open the
current "contribute" page (although this page is not optimal
for Eclipse IDE - but we can consider making and using a more dedicated
page later).
I've thought about a few possibilities:
* Replace the Welcome page by the "How to contribute
page".
* An occasional -or on every startup- popup with a reminder
and a link to the page 
* Occasionally -or on every startup- just showing up the
webpage
* A link in the About dialog
* A menu item in the Help menu

I imagine those would make sense close to the USS plugin,
and would make sense in EPP packages.

What do you think about trying something on that topic
for Photon?

-- 
Mickael Istria
Eclipse
IDE developer, at Red
Hat Developers community
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