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Re: [ide-dev] Prominence of the Eclipse IDE dowlnoad button in the download page

The other issue is that the EclipseCon Europe banner is in between the "Download the technology..." banner and the downloads themselves. Which will of course go away next week as well.
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On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:48 PM Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ian,

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Once the Friends of Eclipse campaign is finished I believe this issue will go away. Do you agree?

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From: ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Bull
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 3:47 PM


To: Discussions about the IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ide-dev] Prominence of the Eclipse IDE dowlnoad button in the download page

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Ian,

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I know there was (is?) lots of debate about the initiative to redesign the downloads page. However, I don't think this particular issue is about that. This is related to the specific issue of the download button being bellow the fold (actually, it's not just below the fold, without a maximized browser it's off the page).

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Cheers,

Ian

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On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 at 12:00 Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I actual follow this email list. :-)

The bug in question is
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=493809https://bugs.eclipse.org
/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=493809

The download page redesign was completed earlier this year. The Board ask
us to redesign this page to reflect the diversity of the Eclipse community.
The old download page only showed the Eclipse Platform IDEs but the Eclipse
community is actually much larger than these projects.

I know some people don't think this is the correct approach for the download
page. I would also suggest this thread is probably not the correct place to
have that debate. If you would like to have the debate, please open a bug.
I would also encourage you to engage with the Board committer reps on this
issue.

If someone wants to suggest improvements to the Eclipse Neon section of the
download page please feel free to open a bug. If someone wants to take
ownership of an IDE landing page to promote JDT, please open a bug. I would
be happy to help support that initiative.

I hope this helps.
Ian


-----Original Message-----
From: ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:06 AM
To: Discussions about the IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ide-dev] Prominence of the Eclipse IDE dowlnoad button in the
download page

Please send all correspondence about the Downloads page to Ian Skerret. He
made the decision. There is a bug but comments there didnÂt seem to make a
difference.

Doug.

On 2016-09-26, 9:52 AM, "ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Patrik
Suzzi" <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of psuzzi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> _____________________________
>> From: Sopot Cela <scela@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> The "Download Eclipse Technology that is right for you" banner area
>>is largely unused or not well used. By 'well' I mean serving the
>>purposes of showing off our Eclipse IDE.
>>
>
>+1, this page has to be re-designed.
>
>Even without the September campaign, it's hard to understand what you
>can download.
>
>
>I want to add:
>
>Until a few months ago, the average Eclipse user went to the download
>page to choose which package to download. Here you can see how it
>looked the page until March 2016: http://i.imgur.com/WfvKSvo.png ( or
>check
>https://web.archive.org/web/20160325161610/https://eclipse.org/download
>s/
>)
>
>Now, to my eyes, it is unclear how I can quickly download Eclipse
>packages. Can you easily spot the "packages" link, that I highlighted
>in this image?
>http://imgur.com/5DdzJhP.png
>
>I propose small changes for a better impact:
>- Replace "Choose the right technology" with a new "Downloads" banner,
>that with images + links + tooltips will point to the packages.
>- show the number of downloads
>
>This image shows the idea: http://imgur.com/4datKIx.png
>
>IMHO, the proposed design is better for:
>- less wasted space,
>- Users searching for packages will find them easily (*)
>- Showing we have million of downloads would help the "network effect"
>when a user is considering whether to choose Eclipse.
>
>(* to me, having many packages is a strong point for Eclipse, but in
>any case, we have million of downloaders who are used to downloads the
>packages from that page, we shouldn't just fail them).
>
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Patrik Suzzi
>Software Engineer, Eclipse
>Platform UI Committer
>https://about.me/psuzzi
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