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At the end of the day, whether we get a profiler or not depends on someone doing the work, or a group of people in this case since it is a lot of work. That’s what the Eclipse meritocracy is all about. Opinions on whether it’s a good idea or not are welcome
but not binding.
I will disagree with you :) IMHO, it would be worth the effort because an IDE should include profiling tools out of the box, like it provides debugging or testing facilities. MAT is an excellent tool, but it focuses only on memory. You proposal to use tools
outside of Eclipse is the opposite of what the I of IDE stands for.
Netbeans is AFAIK, the only java IDE that includes a Java profiler out of the box, it could be a real advantage for Eclipse to be in this category too.
Cheers,
Mikael
I also agree with Pascal and Mickael that this isn't worth the effort. We have
https://www.eclipse.org/mat/at Eclipse and if one wants to use the tools from the Java SDK, then
better directly use those tools than integrate them via Swing integration.
Dani
From: Pascal Rapicault <pascal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 20.09.2016 18:07
Subject: Re: [ide-dev] A Java Profiler at Eclipse
Sent by: ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
I share similar opinions to Mickael.
- Rewriting seems to be a big undertake.
- Can we use SWT/AWT bridge to embed?
- Can we use the TPTP UI and use their backend?
- Do we need the complete UI in which case we could limit ourselves to a couple views/dialogs
I also thought about JMC. I would not go and try the OSS route with Oracle, this could be too long. Instead when Eclipse is running on a VM that ships with JMC, and since JMC is an RCP app, we could identify the necessary plug-ins and directly load them into
Eclipse.
Of course this does not help the OpenJDK users but it gets us somewhere using a supported code base.
Pascal
On 9/20/2016 11:52 AM, Mickael Istria wrote:
On 09/20/2016 05:41 PM, Mikaël Barbero wrote:
Do you think it could be a good opportunity for Eclipse? Would you be interested in having a look at the feasibility of that?
Rewriting all Netbeans profiler UI in the Eclipse world seems a lot of work.
Why not considering a revival of TPTP or lobbying to get one of https://marketplace.eclipse.org/search/site?f[0]=im_taxonomy_vocabulary_1%3A13&f[1]=im_taxonomy_vocabulary_3%3A31
or lobbying to get Oracle Java Mission Control to the
Eclipse.org ?
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