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Re: [ide-dev] A "releases/latest" URL in the IDE to ease upgrades?

I¹m with Mickael here. If we never start, we will never change the culture
that has led us here. I¹m fine if 3rd party plug-ins break things. Users
can always reinstall and rebuild their workspaces from scratch, which
unfortunately is something they¹ve become used to anyway. But let¹s find
out how bad things really are before throwing away an opportunity to make
things better.


On 2015-12-03, 11:52 AM, "ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Brian
de Alwis" <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
briandealwis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On 3-Dec-2015, at 11:34 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> At some point, I believe the IDE has to "lead" the ecosystem, by being
>>more helpful to its users, including allowing updating from Mars to
>>Neon, and that 3rd-party in the ecosystem have to adapt accordingly or
>>die. Eclipse IDE doesn't have to handle all the pain created by 3rd
>>party plugins and should be really focusing on its users more than on
>>all the possible ways for 3rd-party plugins to mess it up.
>Except we have no way to discover which of those 3rd party plugins do
>mess up.  And you can be sure that at least 30% of the users will have
>one of those plugins installed :-(
>I¹d definitely support alerting of major upgrades if we had a better
>rollback story [1], such as a button on the Switch Workspaces button, or
>being able to hold down Ctrl+Alt on start [2].  But it needs to be rock
>solid.  I¹ve had mixed success in rolling back changes using the About >
>Installation dialog: some have failed as the old features and bundles
>can¹t be found (deleted from the bundle pool?) and couldn¹t be found at
>any of my configured update sites.
>[2] But I¹ve not been able to figure a way to query SWT as to which
>modifier keys are currently held
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