Re: [ide-dev] Some Infos About Oomph
Where can I try that nice oomph looking installer ?
and is there a a way to reuse it for building my own custom installer of
non-eclipse.org content, such as JBoss Tools and/or JBoss Developer
Am 28.01.2015 um 09:18 schrieb Mickael Istria:
Thanks Eike for this details. Based on your explanation, I have a few
No, the majority of them neither can nor want to do that. A few maybe
do and for those we provide a New Profile Wizard and a nice tree
structure editor, including an execution preview in the Outline view.
I imagine that we all agree that end-users downloading Eclipse IDE
for the first time won't want nor be able to define what they want in
So that's not something they should see or care about, it's more an
technical internal choice.
Yes, except for the authors of well-managed product profiles or
project profiles and for those who like our tree structure editor and
want full control over their user profile.
What's the workflow for new users? Shipping a minimal Oomph-capable
RCP instead of EPP packages, and this minimal app would start a
wizard to help users to define what they want and then provision the
Yes, that's one goal. Here's a screenshot of this simple installer
You see, it's really not very different from the current download
pages. Please note that the installer comes as a self-extracting
executable on Windows (for now). On all platforms it supports Java VM
discovery and management for both the installer itself and the
Is Oomph able to listen to "structural" IDE actions (such as addition
of some new feature or setting of a global preference) and to
maintain a "current" profile according to it? For example, assuming I
install an IDE provisioned by Oomph, and then install e4 Tools in it;
then can I export and backup a profile that automatically contains my
initial IDE + the addition of e4 tools?
Currently we've only implemented a recorder for the global workspace
preferences. We're working on a more general framework to listen to
these "structual changes" in the running IDE, generate SetupTasks from
them and store them in a profile. Yatta has also already worked on a
couple of these "task builders" and is involved in the effort to store
these profiles at Eclipse.org and make them available to other users.
And then can I either re-provision a new IDE or an existing one with
the profile definition I exported?
Currently we always add these generated SetupTasks to the user profile
and that particular profile is applied to any IDE or workspace anyways
(restrictions can be specified, too). With our tree structure editors
you can easily move/copy these tasks from your user profile to product
or project profiles. And we'll soon start to make it easier for the
user to control where these generated tasks will be stored. For
example we've discussed a new "machine profile" to separate
machine-specific from user-specific setup aspects.
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