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Re: [ide-dev] Survey results

I don’t understand why the choice is between “ignore the survey” and “make broad changes based on an ambiguous question”. If instead of rushing into this change, we came back with a follow-up survey to get more detailed data, I don’t see how anyone could be upset and we would have far more concrete data to backup the desire for change.


Something like this… Based on the previous survey, we see that a majority of responders desire more warnings to be enabled by default. Now tells us which of these currently-disabled warnings you would like to see enabled.


- Konstantin



From: ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lars Vogel
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 7:07 AM
To: Discussions about the IDE
Subject: Re: [ide-dev] Survey results


Same on my side (I agree with Mickael and Sopot). I personally voted against the change for more compiler warnings, but if we ask people to vote and than ignore the majority, we loose credibility in the community.


Best regards, Lars


2013/12/9 Sopot Çela <sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx>

I agree with Mickael. Those 65 % now are expecting the change and if it is not there in Luna it's a huge credibility hit. If I had voted for 'Yes' (which I didn't) I'd have this revolting thought of 'Why did they do the survey anyway?' and would have really low probability of answering the next time.




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 12/09/2013 02:53 PM, Ian Skerrett wrote:

If you implement that change it will definitely annoy this minority.

And what about the majority?

Also, due to the nature of the change, my assumption is that a subset of people that said ‘yes’ did not appreciate the impact of the change so when it is implemented they will wish they had voted ‘no’.

We've all reworked the question several times to make it explicit. I thought we've agreed the question was good enough so that we could trust the outcome of the survey and turn it into a concrete action (Yes or No to all warnings). Why deciding to almost ignore the vote now? Or why even asking the question if it's to ignore 65% of "Yes" ?

65% of people have expressed they'd like all warnings. We've discussed that the survey and reaction to results would also be a way to encourage the community to give feedback. I think letting 35% of community decide of everything is not fair at all.


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