Thanks….
         
        --Chung
         
        
          
            From: Winston
                Prakash
                [mailto:winston.prakash@xxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:15 PM
                To: Hudson developer discussions
                Cc: Ley, Chung
                Subject: Re: [hudson-dev] General newbie question
                (projects + job
                executions)
           
         
         
        
          
          On 3/29/12 9:49 AM, Ley, Chung wrote: 
        Thanks for your
            responses.
         
        I am also new
            (not familiar)
            with Maven, but from what I heard, I will like need that as
            the
            “clue” to combine projects/artifacts together.  However, I
            don’t know what the learning curve will be like since I may
            have to start
            with something quickly and fast.
        I
            would highly recommend using maven. If you are new to maven
            you might want to
            read these e-books
            
            Maven
by
              example
            Maven
Cook
              Book
            Maven:
The
              Complete Reference
            
            Maven helps you to divide your project components in to
            buildable chunks and
            create artifacts. These artifacts can be referenced from
            other components. Then
            you can build the final application by combining the
            artifacts of each module.
            
            
            
            
         
        As for the
            remote
            job….  Will I still need to install something on the
            “farm” in order for Hudson to initiate and wait for job that
            way,
            it sounds like that I don’t if we are to just have Hudson to
            call and
            WAIT.  On the other hand, I do have integration test that
            will takes 12hrs
            + running on a 100CPU farm; so I will likely like to option
            to not to wait.
        
            I'm not sure what do you mean by virtual Farm. Are they
            virual machines
            (VmWare, VirtualBox etc)?  If so one possibility is to add
            those VMs as
            slaves to Hudson and tie your Integration Test job to that
            slave.  
            
            
            
         
        I am having
            problem with setting
            up ldap configuration and may need additional help.  For
            now, my plan is
            that everyone will need to logs on using the Windows
            authentication AND then
            certain ids will have special permissions (such as mine)…. 
            However,
            I guess I will need an “admin” account that manage all of
            that,
            right?  I assumed that I do that via some configuration
            file.  Can
            you point me to it?
        From
            your other e-mail, I guess you are successful in setting up
            LDAP
            authentication. I would suggest Matrix/Project
            authorization.
            
            
            
         
        Currently, I am
            deploying Hudson
            as a WAR file inside JBoss, but that seems to make the
            editing of the
            configuration files so much more difficult….  Do you
            recommend that
            I deploy that as a native application?
        
            Depends on your needs. For large number of builds better to
            use sophisticated
            Java EE appserver, than the bundled simple Servlet
            Container.
            
            
         
        Finally….  I am
            so
            sorry to have so many questions….  Can you recommend any
            additional
            resource/documentation for learning best practices and other
            aspects of
            Hudson….   I am starting with the Hudson “Book”
            from the web site, and some of the other PPTs that are
            available there; but you
            may have additional recommendations….  Just trying to learn
            the
            different available plug-ins are time consumingJ
        
            If you outline your requirements we may be able to point you
            to the right
            plugins. Eventually you might want to write your own plugin,
            you don't any of
            the plugin suits your requirements.
            
            - Winston
            
            
         
        Thanks again.
         
        --Chung
         
         
         
         
         
        
         
        Hi,
          
          Answers inline...
          
          Although they might be classed more as opinion than answers.
          
          On 27/03/2012 15:59, Ley, Chung wrote: 
        Hi,
         
        I am very new to Hudson and as a matter of
          fact I am new to
          using CI.
         
        I am looking into setting up Hudson, but
          have a couple of
          general design questions.
        I have
          projects where each
          project encompass a number of different components/parts where
          each part is
          being developed by a different set of developers.  What is the
          best way to
          model that in Hudson?
        We
            use Hudson project jobs for each component in this case,
            then each dev team can
            see there component build and test results by checking there
            job results. You
            cna then use artifacts from those component jobs to build
            larger integration
            projects that show results of that integration, building up
            to the logical 'whole
            thing'. It's slightly harder to architect, although not that
            hard if you are
            using maven.
            
            
          
        The
          "test"
          job/script that need to be done for some of these components
          can be huge tasks
          and the job need to submit to a virtual farm for "execution". 
          Is that possible?  How do you approach that?  It sounds like I
          like
          to install some execution agent/broker in the server farm side
          to make this
          happen.
        Depending
            on how you submit to this farm and how the results are
            reported you could use a
            Hudson job to submit and wait for the results, although this
            would block a
            Hudson executor, it wouldn't massively increase your server
            load as it would
            just be waiting. Investigate the build timeout plugin to
            protect from farm
            failures etc... 
            
            Also have a look at Hudson's ability to fingerprint files in
            sub-projects and
            join up test results based on the shared usage of a
            fingerprinted file.
            
            
            
          
        Do you
          manage the
          development + main + release branches all in the same CI
          server or do you
          manage them in separate CI?  How do you model it such that the
          main is
          "build" from the development?  How do you make such build that
          by default it is only on a successful build (without error)
          from the
          development, but allow certain users to override it?
        You
            can manage these in the same CI and promote builds up
            through the levels. Have
            a look at the promoted builds plugin for what you can do.
            You can streamline
            the UI by having development, main, and release views that
            can be used by the
            different groups, dev, qa, etc...
            
            
          
         
        Thanks…
         
        --Chung
         
         
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