As a consumer of
Higgins, declaring a focus on Information Cards doesn't reflect what
Higgins means to me (and the broader community Higgins can serve).
While Information Cards are a major aspect of Higgins, the ALF project
consumes very useful Higgins components (STS, CPs, IdAS)
without leveraging Information Cards at all, at least at the
moment.. My sense is that associating Higgins with Information Cards too
strongly will pigeon-hole the project to that niche of the Identity space
where the where a human user is in the loop. I would prefer to see
Higgins focus on Identity in general, with a focus on
bridging/unifying/abstracting the many existing identity schemes and
mechanisms - for both headless and human-in the loop uses. I believe
that is where Higgins can offer the most value to the community, and while
Information Cards are a useful aspect for human-facing negotiations about
identity and credentials, as a consumer, as a consumer, I would like
to see a broader focus on Identity in general.
Regards,
Brian
Brian
Carroll | Eclipse ALF Project Lead | Serena Fellow
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I
think if we came up with text that is concise enough that people are willing
to read it, and is accurate and not confusing or too abstract, the group would
want to change to that.
>>> Anthony Nadalin
<drsecure@xxxxxxxxxx> 06/25/08 11:15 AM >>>
I beg to differ that
information cards are the unifying metaphor as that is assuming that there is
an identity selector and that is not the underlying component in this project
(it was and still and add-on). I think its also important that this project
not get confused with Information Card Foundation as it seems that this is
where it is heading.
I looked back through the meeting minutes and
there is very little discussion about these pages and the direction that this
project is heading.
Anthony Nadalin | Work
512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122
"Drummond Reed" ---06/25/2008 12:04:29
PM---+1. Tony, in all fairness, this topic has received a lot of discussion
both on the list and on the weekly calls over the past f
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+1. Tony, in all fairness,
this topic has received a lot of discussion both on the list and on the weekly
calls over the past few months. Numerous links were sent to the draft
pages/graphics.
Yes, Higgins is about
much more than information cards. But information cards are the unifying
metaphor for a user’s interaction with Higgins components, so its a pretty
good candidate, at least for the present, as the lead metaphor for the outside
world to wrap their head around what Higgins is about and the types of
problems it is solving.
I suspect we
will be constantly iterating on Higgins positioning as the project keeps
evolving and deployments increase.
=Drummond
From: higgins-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:higgins-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jim Sermersheim
Sent: Wednesday, June
25, 2008 9:43 AM
To: higgins-dev
Subject: Re:
[higgins-dev] Higgins Project in General
I brought this up on the last
dev call and also on the IRC.
The problem is that it's really hard to describe
*what it really is* without either:
a) being so wordy that no one wants to read it
b) being so abstract that no
one understands it
so
I think the authors went for the most understandable, accessible language at
the cost of hiding all that Higgins is.
BTW, no one has reverted my awesome IRC topic. It
still says "Higgins - Open Source Uber Identity Framework" :)
>>> Anthony
Nadalin <drsecure@xxxxxxxxxx> 06/25/08 10:36 AM
>>>
Looking at the new
home page, I would say I would strongly disagree that this page accurately
represents the project, as we are not all about information cards at all, that
is one subset component. It seems that changes are made w/o consulting the
project team which is very discouraging. Can we go back to the old home page
which more accurately reflects the project goals so that folks visiting the
site have a better idea what Higgins is all about and don't get the idea that
this is just about Information Cards (as its not).
Anthony
Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122
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