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Re: [epp-dev] Indigo M6 EPP

Bug 340328


On 2011-03-17, at 11:18 AM, Eric Rizzo wrote:

On 3/17/11 11:14 AM, Ian Skerrett wrote:
FWIW, I ran the Java IDE package and did not get any console message.   I am running on Windows 32 bit.

Eric, shouldn't your concerns about m2eclipse be opened as a bug for that project.  It doesn't seem to be specific to a package?

I thought about it, but as I said the automatic downloading might be desirable for people who explicitly choose m2e. It's a different story for the EPP packages.
In any case, Pascal has said he's going to look into it.

Eric


On 3/17/2011 10:54 AM, Eric Rizzo wrote:
On 3/17/11 10:31 AM, Eric Rizzo wrote:
On 3/17/11 9:51 AM, Steffen Pingel wrote:
When I ran the Java package with a clean workspace on Gtk/x86_64 I got a lot of debug output on the console. The output was mostly from m2eclipse but also from other plugins:

 340312: Indigo M6 logs lots of output
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=340312

Does that happen with other packages as well?

I tried the JEE package on OS X, but I don't think that package includes m2eclipse.
I do remember from my experience with m2e about 2 years ago that excessive console output was a major annoyance with it.
I also wonder if it's been discussed that including m2eclipse in the Java package means that users will need to be using a JDK instead of a JRE (last I saw, m2e doesn't work correctly without a JDK and reminds the user of that every time at startup). Forgive me if this was already discussed and I missed it; I'm just concerned about the community side of things if all of a sudden the Java package changes it's pre-requisites and the intrusive UI that m2eclipse used to alert about it.

Eric

I just ran the Java package on OS X and didn't get any Console logging from m2e. However, it did kick off a long-running background job that's downloading somewhat large Maven repository index files. I'm concerned about this behavior; as a user I'm not too happy about software downloading large files into some unknown location on my machine without prompting or asking first. This might be expected by users who manually install Maven tools, but in the scenario where I just installed Eclipse for Java Developers, I don't think it should be doing that. I predict we're going to get plenty of questions/complaints about this on the forums.
If m2e is really to be included in the most popular Eclipse package, can at least the setting that controls this behavior be turned off by default?

Eric

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