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Re: [ee4j-pmc] Messaging for CodeOne/EclipseCon
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David,Interesting call to action... The
title of your paper says "Jakarta EE Community Voices", but you
only sent this to the EE4J PMC and the Jakarta EE Working Group. Did
you want to send this to the whole Community? I realize we have several
lurkers on the PMC and WG mailing lists, but the majority of the community
conversation happens on Jakarta EE Community mailing list. So, if
you want wider input and participation, should it be re-posted there as
well? I know your note says to take a risk and apologize later, but
I didn't want to expand your distribution without understanding your intent.
Thanks.
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Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Java EE architect
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutterFrom:
David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:
Jakarta EE Working
Group <jakarta.ee-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx>, EE4J PMC Discussions <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>Date:
10/09/2018 01:06 AMSubject:
Re: [ee4j-pmc]
Messaging for CodeOne/EclipseConSent by:
ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Hello everyone,Coming back to this and thank you Arjan, Markus and Werner
for responding. The first theme I heard very loudly is "more
CDI" and general desire to work on CDI alignment, which is fantastic.
The second one is Edge Computing, which was mentioned, but without any
examples to reference.I'd love to tease these out in greater detail, enable
more people to get excited about them and see if we can't enable people
to write articles that show "early glimpses" of potential Jakarta
EE themes and help us rally the troops for these causes.I've created a document where everyone can contribute.
It's an interview style so people can potentially reuse the material in
articles to further support Jakarta EE. The goal is not commitments,
but to get people excited, help bring people in to contribute and add more
community muscle to dreams. If you want people to come help you get
something done, use this to write to them and motivate them. - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y-Vs4d9Iotw0HqsiTxG5UCm7ua0w35vJZkGVmS_hFrw/edit#In addition to the two themes of CDI and Cloud/Edge, I've
added JVM Language feature impact and an open-ended question to cover any
topics not in the previous three and provide some "here's how you
get involved" information.Note this document has not been seen by anyone other than
me and does not represent a perfectly flawless execution overseen by a
dozen people. It is likely flawed, I am definitely flawed, and this
is me doing my best as a fellow individual to think of ways that we can
shine as a community. If you spot any significant flaws, go with
the "fix first and ask forgiveness later" philosophy and correct
away. You are encouraged to share it and help get participation.There definitely will be some official document written.
My hope is this feeds that. I have two "out of thin air" deadlines to make
that something that could potentially happen:DEADLINE for inclusion any officially prepared
Working Group statements: Friday, October 12th, 11pm PacificDEADLINE for realistic inclusion any third
party Jakarta EE news coverage Friday, October 19th, 11pm PacificThe first deadline is with the idea that if people get
me content by Friday, I could prepare something over the weekend and have
some potential text to share with the Steering Committee meeting that Tuesday
morning. The Tuesday 16th meeting will be our last meeting before
CodeOne/EclipseCon so that's my last chance to get something in front of
everyone for any sort of pre-conference approval.The second deadline is with the thought that our friends
and allies in places like JAXEnter would at least have the weekend to come
up with any articles they might want to publish when the conferences start
the following Monday.Of course, this could all be too ambitious and no
one participates, in which case, I'm ok being the guy with egg on his face.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. So I'm fine going for
it.That said, I think we can do it and I'd love to see 12
or more voices in this thing.All voices are welcome. If for a second you think,
"I'm nobody, no one wants to hear from me." Bury that thought,
yes we do. How does a community of 10 become a community of 100?
Only through the bravery of 90 people in your shoes. When we get
to 1000, it will be because of you.If you want that future for us, now is the time to ignore
the butterflies and take that risk you've been itching to take and never
have. I'm putting myself out there at the risk of a botched execution
that falls flat and goes nowhere. Come take a risk with me.
Let's do this together.-David
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:11 PM David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hello community,
Normally at the former JavaOne there'd be a section of
the keynote dedicated to Java EE which usually included messaging like
theme, roadmap, focus area. This would usually get repeated in various
panel sessions, etc. This is easier to do when direction is dictated.
This topic came up in the Jakarta EE Steering Committee and everyone universally
felt a dictated message was not appropriate and we should do our best to
pull something together as a community.
Are there any volunteers who are willing to help collect
some technical direction from the various projects? I.e. what would
people in the project want people at the conference to know?
We have about 15-20 calendar days we can spend on this
before we run out of runway. In other words: actions are better than
ideas. Feel encouraged to take the initiative in your respective
project.
-David
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