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James,

Would you please email Eclipse Foundation reps about it?

https://www.eclipsecon.org/france2018/unconference
The March deadline for the agenda is over, so can't say if WGs and other initiatives have already booked all available rooms in the Pullman Hotel for the Unconference.

I heard about two options to attend/participate by Anne (also send an email to her if you want) at Eclipse but I mainly have to wait, if the JNoSQL talk Otavio and I proposed gets into the program or not.
Although ECF is only 2 days plus one Unconference day I cannot afford to leave my client(s) alone for a whole week, so I would only do both if say we did have a JNoSQL talk and it would be in the first half of June 13, so I could arrive for the Unconference and leave in the course of the next day. Note the Unconference has a separate fee there, about 100â with VAT so it is cheaper than any of the conference tickets.

If I mainly came there for the Unconference I'd be happy to also help organize or moderate or help other EE4J/Jakarta EE committers and/or PMC members who are there anyway. I did so in the Science WG, representing Eclipse STEM, UOMo or both or contribute to posters during a Poster Session. Can't say if they do that again this year?

Werner



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I would definitely be interested in attending a Jakarta EE unconference at
EclipseCon France.

On 4 April 2018 at 02:53, Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Heiko,
>
> Thanks for the reply and interest in helping the Unconference (I assume at
> ECE in Ludwigsburg more likely?;-)
> Take last year's ECE Unconference
> https://www.eclipsecon.org/europe2017/unconference
> as example.
>
> I guess you need a room and enough people interested in a certain topic,
> it is not as spontanous as the JavaLand "Lobby Day" I think you saw or
> heard about.
> It would be great, if it worked, and should you like to propose something
> to ECE in Ludwigsburg related to MP Metrics, I'd be happy to join in on
> that.
> Some examples e.g. Emily with another speaker who has no company name
> (either it's missing or she is an Individual committer) this time show, it
> does not hurt to have a company name, but maybe it was too soon since
> Health or Metrics were last presented.
> If there is a JNoSQL talk I can participate in or an Unconference day I
> can more easily take off, I'd be happy to go to Tolouse as well.
> Otherwise having the only Jakarta EE/Java EE talk at DWX
> https://www.developer-week.de/categories/#/category/java my June is all
> but empty when it comes to conferences;-)
>
> Werner
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:03 PM, <ee4j-community-request@eclipse.org>
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>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:34:20 +0200
>> From: Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: EE4J community discussions <ee4j-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] Community Control was Jakarta EE logo
>>Â Â Â Â Âselection
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>> Mike,
>>
>> As mentioned also in the separate unconference thread, Jakarta EE was very
>> underrepresented at ECF, maybe because it simply came much too late to
>> "the
>> party" for this conference or because other buzzwords like "Reactive",
>> "Responsive", "Microservices" or "Spring Boot" are more appealing than
>> Java
>> EE to the program committee.
>>
>> It would be great to see a similar Unconference day and track as many of
>> us
>> did before JavaLand on Jakarta EE and the new WG. If not in Toulouse then
>> at least in Ludwigsburg.
>>
>> Which do you see more realistic?
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:28 PM, <ee4j-community-request@eclipse.org>
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>> >Â Â 1. Re: Twitter Handle (Stephanie Swart)
>> >Â Â 2. ECF Unconference (Werner Keil)
>> >Â Â 3. Re: Twitter Handle (Josh Juneau)
>> >Â Â 4. Re: Community Control was Jakarta EE logo selection
>> >Â Â Â Â(Mike Milinkovich)
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:11:44 -0400
>> > From: Stephanie Swart <stephanie.swart@eclipse-foundation.org>
>> > To: EE4J community discussions <ee4j-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] Twitter Handle
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>> >
>> > Hi Josh and all,
>> >
>> > Yes, @JakartaEE is the official Twitter handle for Jakarta EE.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Stephanie
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Josh Juneau <juneau001@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have seen a tweet recently from the handle @JakartaEE. I wanted to
>> > > confirm if this is the official Twitter handle for Jakarta EE. If so,
>> > then
>> > > I will help to spread the word about following.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > Josh Juneau
>> > > juneau001@xxxxxxxxx
>> > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>> > >
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>> > Marketing Specialist
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>> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:22:52 +0200
>> > From: Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: EE4J community discussions <ee4j-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: [ee4j-community] ECF Unconference
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>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Jakarta EE may be still a bit too recent with the name only confirmed a
>> > few weeks ago, the logo not even decided on and various charters or WGs
>> not
>> > yet writen in stone either, but since EclipseCon Unconferences have been
>> > there for the community and Working Groups for a few years now, are
>> there
>> > any plans for the Jakarta EE WG at EclipseCon France Unconference?
>> > https://www.eclipsecon.org/france2018/unconference
>> >
>> > The true Java EE/Jakarta EE content among accepted sessions in the
>> > "Microsrervice/Microprofile/EE4J/Java EE" track
>> > https://www.eclipsecon.org/france2018/program/sessions/
>> > accepted?keys=&field_experience_value=All&field_
>> > session_type_tid=All&field_session_track_tid%5B%5D=1396
>> > Is extremely meager. Except JAX-RS not a single detail project,
>> everything
>> > else is MicroProfile and 3 very high level management-pitch style
>> talks. I
>> > held similar ones at JUG Meetings about Java EE 8 and the JUG members
>> were
>> > not so happy I could not go into detail about individual features of
>> Java
>> > EE 8, so judging from the abstracts none of these talks will be able to
>> do
>> > that either.
>> >
>> > I don't recall if Otavio proposed it for the (seemingly empty) Data
>> > Analytics track of ECF or also the EE4J umbrella, but our JNoSQL
>> proposal
>> > is at least on standby. Having had good experience with those
>> Unconference
>> > days both in Toulouse and Ludwigsburg I would not mind to participate in
>> > that only if we don't have the JNoSQL talk in the main conference. In
>> fact
>> > being an Individual committer I rarely get a whole week time to spend
>> there
>> > anyway instead of with clients and their work.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Werner
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>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 09:24:24 -0500
>> > From: Josh Juneau <juneau001@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: EE4J community discussions <ee4j-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] Twitter Handle
>> > Message-ID:
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>> >
>> > Thanks for the response Stephanie, it is appreciated.
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > Josh Juneau
>> > juneau001@xxxxxxxxx
>> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Stephanie Swart <
>> > stephanie.swart@eclipse-foundation.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Josh and all,
>> > >
>> > > Yes, @JakartaEE is the official Twitter handle for Jakarta EE.
>> > >
>> > > Thank you,
>> > > Stephanie
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Josh Juneau <juneau001@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I have seen a tweet recently from the handle @JakartaEE. I wanted to
>> > >> confirm if this is the official Twitter handle for Jakarta EE. If
>> so,
>> > then
>> > >> I will help to spread the word about following.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks
>> > >>
>> > >> Josh Juneau
>> > >> juneau001@xxxxxxxxx
>> > >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> > >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > *Stephanie Swart*
>> > > Marketing Specialist
>> > > Eclipse Foundation
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>> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:28:00 -0400
>> > From: Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@eclipse-foundation.org>
>> > To: ee4j-community@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] Community Control was Jakarta EE logo
>> >Â Â Â Â Âselection
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>> >
>> > On 2018-04-03 9:35 AM, Werner Keil wrote:
>> > > Looking at EclipseCon France talks, you may also be affiliated or
>> > > officially representing Cybercom now rather than a non-paying
>> Individual?
>> > > https://www.eclipsecon.org/france2018/program/sessions/
>> > accepted?keys=metrics&field_experience_value=All&field_
>> > session_type_tid=All
>> > >
>> > > Based on a more corporate nature of Eclipse Foundation and its
>> > > reliance on donations also to particular projects and efforts (like
>> > > Jakarta EE) that sounds logical.
>> > > Only 2 or 3 primary speakers are not affiliated with a company which
>> > > also doesn't quite speak against the worries by Markus and other
>> > > members of the community regarding a pay-to-play (or pay-to-speak in
>> > > case of conferences) mentality.
>> > >
>> > > Of two proposals I was involved, the one Otavio (affiliated with
>> > > Tomitribe his contributions also show Tomitribe as the contributing
>> > > company) filed as primary speaker is at least still on "standby" while
>> > > the one I proposed as Individual primary speaker was turned down.
>> > >
>> > > Interestingly no dedicated Health or Metrics topic made it into the
>> > > program at all, but had e.g. Red Hat proposed one, I guess they may
>> > > have had better luck.
>> >
>> > Werner,
>> >
>> > All Eclipse Foundation conferences have independent Program Committees
>> > that are separate from the operations of the Eclipse Foundation. Their
>> > decisions about which talks are included in each conference are
>> > unrelated to any membership status. Where we have talks from our
>> > conference sponsors, they are clearly identified as such in the program.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mike Milinkovich
>> > mike.milinkovich@eclipse-foundation.org
>> > (m) +1.613.220.3223
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>> From: "Heiko W. Rupp" <hrupp@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "EE4J community discussions" <ee4j-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 16:22, Werner Keil wrote:
>> > either, but since EclipseCon Unconferences have been there for the
>> > community and Working Groups for a few years now,
>>
>> I can't make it to ECF, but will for sure submit to ECE again.
>> What would it take to do/organise such a (1/2) day of unconference
>> for JakartaEE / MicroProfile?
>>
>> Thanks
>>Â Â Heiko
>>
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