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Mike,

As mentioned also in the separate unconference thread, Jakarta EE was very underrepresented at ECF, maybe because it simply came much too late to "the party" for this conference or because other buzzwords like "Reactive", "Responsive", "Microservices" or "Spring Boot" are more appealing than Java EE to the program committee.Â

It would be great to see a similar Unconference day and track as many of us did before JavaLand on Jakarta EE and the new WG. If not in Toulouse then at least in Ludwigsburg.Â

Which do you see more realistic?

Werner



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Today's Topics:

 Â1. Re: Twitter Handle (Stephanie Swart)
 Â2. ECF Unconference (Werner Keil)
 Â3. Re: Twitter Handle (Josh Juneau)
 Â4. Re: Community Control was Jakarta EE logo selection
   (Mike Milinkovich)


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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:11:44 -0400
From: Stephanie Swart <stephanie.swart@eclipse-foundation.org>
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Hi Josh and all,

Yes, @JakartaEE is the official Twitter handle for Jakarta EE.

Thank you,
Stephanie

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Josh Juneau <juneau001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have seen a tweet recently from the handle @JakartaEE. I wanted to
> confirm if this is the official Twitter handle for Jakarta EE. If so, then
> I will help to spread the word about following.
>
> Thanks
>
> Josh Juneau
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:22:52 +0200
From: Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [ee4j-community] ECF Unconference
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Hi,

Jakarta EE may be still a bit too recent with the name only confirmed a
few weeks ago, the logo not even decided on and various charters or WGs not
yet writen in stone either, but since EclipseCon Unconferences have been
there for the community and Working Groups for a few years now, are there
any plans for the Jakarta EE WG at EclipseCon France Unconference?
https://www.eclipsecon.org/france2018/unconference

The true Java EE/Jakarta EE content among accepted sessions in the
"Microsrervice/Microprofile/EE4J/Java EE" track
https://www.eclipsecon.org/france2018/program/sessions/accepted?keys=&field_experience_value=All&field_session_type_tid=All&field_session_track_tid%5B%5D=1396
Is extremely meager. Except JAX-RS not a single detail project, everything
else is MicroProfile and 3 very high level management-pitch style talks. I
held similar ones at JUG Meetings about Java EE 8 and the JUG members were
not so happy I could not go into detail about individual features of Java
EE 8, so judging from the abstracts none of these talks will be able to do
that either.

I don't recall if Otavio proposed it for the (seemingly empty) Data
Analytics track of ECF or also the EE4J umbrella, but our JNoSQL proposal
is at least on standby. Having had good experience with those Unconference
days both in Toulouse and Ludwigsburg I would not mind to participate in
that only if we don't have the JNoSQL talk in the main conference. In fact
being an Individual committer I rarely get a whole week time to spend there
anyway instead of with clients and their work.

Regards,

Werner
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 09:24:24 -0500
From: Josh Juneau <juneau001@xxxxxxxxx>
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Thanks for the response Stephanie, it is appreciated.

Best

Josh Juneau
juneau001@xxxxxxxxx
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866


On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Stephanie Swart <
stephanie.swart@eclipse-foundation.org> wrote:

> Hi Josh and all,
>
> Yes, @JakartaEE is the official Twitter handle for Jakarta EE.
>
> Thank you,
> Stephanie
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Josh Juneau <juneau001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I have seen a tweet recently from the handle @JakartaEE. I wanted to
>> confirm if this is the official Twitter handle for Jakarta EE. If so, then
>> I will help to spread the word about following.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Josh Juneau
>> juneau001@xxxxxxxxx
>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> *Stephanie Swart*
> Marketing Specialist
> Eclipse Foundation
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:28:00 -0400
From: Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@eclipse-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] Community Control was Jakarta EE logo
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On 2018-04-03 9:35 AM, Werner Keil wrote:
> Looking at EclipseCon France talks, you may also be affiliated or
> officially representing Cybercom now rather than a non-paying Individual?
> https://www.eclipsecon.org/france2018/program/sessions/accepted?keys=metrics&field_experience_value=All&field_session_type_tid=All
>
> Based on a more corporate nature of Eclipse Foundation and its
> reliance on donations also to particular projects and efforts (like
> Jakarta EE) that sounds logical.
> Only 2 or 3 primary speakers are not affiliated with a company which
> also doesn't quite speak against the worries by Markus and other
> members of the community regarding a pay-to-play (or pay-to-speak in
> case of conferences) mentality.
>
> Of two proposals I was involved, the one Otavio (affiliated with
> Tomitribe his contributions also show Tomitribe as the contributing
> company) filed as primary speaker is at least still on "standby" while
> the one I proposed as Individual primary speaker was turned down.
>
> Interestingly no dedicated Health or Metrics topic made it into the
> program at all, but had e.g. Red Hat proposed one, I guess they may
> have had better luck.

Werner,

All Eclipse Foundation conferences have independent Program Committees
that are separate from the operations of the Eclipse Foundation. Their
decisions about which talks are included in each conference are
unrelated to any membership status. Where we have talks from our
conference sponsors, they are clearly identified as such in the program.

--
Mike Milinkovich
mike.milinkovich@eclipse-foundation.org
(m) +1.613.220.3223

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