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Re: [ee4j-community] Community Control was Jakarta EE logo selection

Don't want to go into number discussions, but we all know there will be a lot of contributions from non commiter, mostly individual people.

The vendor commiter/individual committer ratio might be around 10:1, but the community contributing to the project will be much larger than its commiter count.

Anyway, as I said, this concerns can be easily mitigated by defining a ratio where (just an example) every 5 vendor commiters, there's an elected individual. That ensures the community will always have the same amount of control even in the case lots of vendors begin interested on the project (hope that comes a reality!).

Do you think that could be feasible?


Guillermo González de Agüero

El mié., 28 mar. 2018 a las 1:06, Mike Milinkovich (<mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>) escribió:
On 2018-03-27 2:36 PM, Werner Keil wrote:
> Although Markus may sometimes express his point a little more
> drastically, he does have a point on this.
> He did not ask about general Eclipse committer membership which is
> free. Out of the thousand or more committer members only one may be
> elected into some or all of the Jakarta EE WG committees, that seems
> given right now, unless the number changes slightly, but 1, 2 or 3 I
> am sure there won't be more representatives of "the community" if you
> include the odd JUG that can afford the 5k$ annual fee.

Your reference to "...the thousand or more committer members..." is
bogus. That number is (I assume) a reference to the total of ~1500
current committers across all Eclipse projects. So far there are 103
EE4J committers, of which most work for member companies Oracle, IBM,
Red Hat, Payara, Tomitribe, etc. There is somewhere around 10-ish
individual committers in EE4J that will be represented by one seat on
the spec and steering committees. Even if those numbers go up by 2 or 3
times as the rest of the projects roll in, the population to
representation ratio is closer to 10:1 than 1000:1 on an order of
magnitude basis.

Mike Milinkovich
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