| Re: [ee4j-community] Tomitribe Veto's Jakarta EE logo Design-- Biggest mess seen under EE4J |
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The PMC is not managing the logo process, it’s not the job of the PMC to manage the logo process.
The PMC manages projects under the EE4J top level Eclipse project. If it has the words JakartaEE then that is the responsibility of the working group, as that is a trademark of the Eclipse Foundation.
The working group has just been created. I am sure these discussions will move to the marketing committee of the Jakarta EE working group.
The community were and are invited to submit proposals for logos here if they had no access to 99 designs
https://wiki.eclipse.org/Jakarta_Logo_Submission and this currently includes two submissions from Tribers and a number from others in the community.
Note I am personally not closely involved in the marketing logo contest however I am aware of the Wiki.
From: ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Amelia Eiras Community, As a Java community member, I am deeply disappointed we are here talking already about Jakarta EE logo designs under close doors… Why does it matter that I send this email? It is not because I am a passionate Java Community member. This email exists because when I see BS taking shape, I cannot be a neutral bystander. What is the logo design rush?
This current form on project is the WRONG method. Thus far in everything done to move forward Jakarta logo contest under private channels could have been avoided. Personally, as a Java active community member I detest lack of transparency on anything OSS related. As a Triber, I cannot & have not been a part of EE4J private mktg meetings b/c they serve no real purpose until healthier EE4J transparency is brought forth. Current ETA deadline April 24. What we are currently seeing is not what a welcoming and re-constructing Community needs to set the foundations of a strong OSS home for java EE. Actions such as Jakarta EE logo, if it moves forward and not stops & retracts from how it
became a thing, it will have negative consequences where only those initially involved will bare 100% of the success and failure. — Quick recap:
Disclosure— I am a Triber. Tomitribe has not been a part of any of those Mktg conversations. They shouldn’t exist until Jakarta mktg group is created & give access to anyone interested to join, share & be part of the changing waters. Everyone in the Java community with good ideas must gain access & be welcomed to become part of the braid of what could be an amazing new branding home for Java EE, now Jakarta EE. Major issue with current Jakarta EE logo contest is how its deadline 3/21 was decided and how project was just brought forth from private chats. WTH entitles the PMC active in Mktg for Jakarta EE logo to even think doing so is OK? Tomitribe didn’t vote or was consulted on why this project should be set forward. We will veto it then as we do now. The total lack of project transparency between the PMC is infuriating to say the least. We don’t even try to communicate with each other. If PMC included cannot carefully police and analyze how we get to where we are NOW on this design mess, I cannot even imagine how frustating those without access must feel. Anyone who cares, own feedback- and do so hopefully in the open. What comes next for Jakarta EE is not for EE4J PMC members to decide, but for each single of you, Members of the active Java EE Community to decide. We are better than current mess. I want to see Jakarta EE logo be placed on hold until healthy transparency is brought to the Community via EE4J openness on April 24th. Until then, any work done thus far means and will lead to nothing.
The grounds are shaky and it doesn’t reflect a true Community for the Future of Jakarta EE. Amelia Eiras |