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Re: [ee4j-community] JCP and existing specs

It was told by Oracle multiple times that all existing specifications may keep using the existing package names if they just publish new versions. New version != new specifications. No implication of leaving the JCP.

-Markus

 

From: ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guillermo González de Agüero
Sent: Freitag, 1. Dezember 2017 12:13
To: EE4J community discussions
Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] JCP and existing specs

 

Given how much they have insisted that new specs will need a different package name and not using the Java word in any way I assumed the idea was not to use the JCP.

 

I'd be glad to be wrong.

 

El vie., 1 dic. 2017 12:07, Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

I just explained that one minute ago. De-Facto the EE4J PMC has no other choice, as no other organization right now and in near future is able or legally allowed to *standardize* (= provide an official norm) anything in the Java universe due to Oracles trademark rights. Yes, the PMC can say "EE4J is a standard" but this is not an *official* Java standard then; it would simply be an Eclipse product, not more. Neither can the PMC do anything against it if the JCP EC decides to say "EE4J is hereby officially standardized as Java EE 9".

                                                      

-Markus

 

 

From: ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Little
Sent: Freitag, 1. Dezember 2017 11:48


To: EE4J community discussions
Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] JCP and existing specs

 

It hasn’t been declared as far as I can recall and I’m on the EE4J PMC :)

 

Mark.

 

 

On 1 Dec 2017, at 09:07, Scott Stark <sstark@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Where has this been declared? It certainly is not defined in the https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j/charter, and frankly flies in the face of moving things to Eclipse.

 

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Leo, this is not true. The EE4J PMC multiply explained that future versions of existing specs will be developed at the Eclipse Foundation, but *will* be standardized still through the JCP.

-Markus

 

From: ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Leonardo Lima
Sent: Donnerstag, 30. November 2017 19:46
To: EE4J community discussions
Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] JCP and existing specs

 

Hello, Guillermo.

 

"Does it mean existing specs will need to be continued on the JCP after the Eclipse donation?"

 

My understanding is that this means that there might be Maintenance Releases of these JSRs fixing bugs or updating the JCP version, for example.

 

New versions of the Java EE / EE4J Specs would *not* be done thru the JCP.

 

Regards,

Leo.

 

 

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