On 2017-10-05 11:32 AM, John D. Ament
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              2017-10-05 6:33 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
            
            
              Mike, are you saying that EPLv2 will always be used
                then as a primary license?  The way I'm reading it is
                that a project can opt to use one of these licenses
                (EPLv2, GPLv2) but it sounds like you're saying it will
                always be EPLv2.
            
           
          
            I am trying to keep things simple, because how this works
              is subtle.
            The important point is that the ASF would always be able
              to use any artifacts from EE4J under the EPLv2 license. So
              there is no issue here. Perhaps you should ask the fine
              folks over at apache-legal to confirm my conclusions.
            
           
        
        Right now
            EPLv2 is not listed (I'm trying to push that forward, I
            suspect it'll be categorized like EPLv1).  My bigger concern
            is that if artifacts are produced that only wear GPLv2
            (which is implied by the current charter) those artifacts
            would not be usable.  I actually suspect we may be able to
            reconsider GPLv2+CPE to be categorized like EPL, but no
            guarantees yet.
       
    
     I do not understand how you can get to a conclusion that there
      will be *any* artifacts "...that only wear GPLv2...". That I can
      promise you will never happen. The Eclipse Foundation has never
      shipped code under the GPL, and we have no intention of starting
      now.
    The way this works is that all code released from EE4J will be
      shipped under the EPLv2. Downstream adopters can choose to include
      it in a combined work under the GPLv2. But nothing originating
      from Eclipse will be under the GPL.
This is what the charter says:
Content produced by projects under the Eclipse EE4J Top Level Project is licensed under the Eclipse Public License v2.0, with the Secondary License GPL 2.0 with Classpath Exception.
It sounds like what it should say is:
Content produced by projects under the Eclipse EE4J Top Level Project is licensed under the Eclipse Public License v2.0.
E.g. the EPLv2 is compatible with the GPLv2+CPE license, but by default there's nothing being produced that's GPLv2+CPE from the TLP.  My interpretation of the existing statement is that projects will be able to freely choose between EPLv2 & GPLv2+CPE.
 
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