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Re: [eclipse.org-project-leadership] Use of GitHub Issues by Eclipse Projects

FWIW we have Jetty mirrored out on github and we have more commits trying to be contributed and discussions on specific commits out there then we have had at eclipse or through gerrit.

This is a very positive step forward for the eclipse community in my opinion, much needed and very welcome. It may not work for projects that are heavily tied into the release train or eclipse tooling but for independent projects like Jetty it is a major breath of fresh air!

Jesse

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:56 AM, John Arthorne <John_Arthorne@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>ÂMaybe I am completely blind, but this comes a bolt out of the blue to me. Surely some discussion was merited?
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Just to give a bit of background context, there have been many discussions about this in the past, both in public and private. As a committer rep it is the single biggest thing I have been lobbied to support in the past 3 years. I have the same fragmentation concerns, but I believe the benefits for those projects outweigh the downside. The reality for most developers is that they already deal with libraries developed on GitHub and we will never have a completely "closed system" where the entire software dependency chain lives at eclipse.org. Being forced to use bugzilla has also beenÂa significant barrier to attracting and keeping projects at the Eclipse Foundation.
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For even more background, here is a thread and bugzilla where these requests have surfaced in the past:
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Subject: Re: [eclipse.org-project-leadership] Use of GitHub Issues by Eclipse Projects
Date: Tue, Nov 10, 2015 4:54 AM
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Hi

"I am pleased to announce that at last week's Board meeting,"

Maybe I am completely blind, but this comes a bolt out of the blue to me. Surely some discussion was merited?

If compatibility tooling is provided, I see a repeat of our longstanding ongoing NNTP/Forum synchronization disaster.

If tooling isn't provided we do a major disservice to all our committers and users, seemingly just to accommodate some projects who do not seem to be properly committed to Eclipse. Eclipse is a community that IMHO endeavors to provide a unified capability. We do not need fragmentation. (Unless of course we are all to move to GitHub.)

IIRC there was originally enthusiasm for using GitHub as a mirror for Eclipse GIT repos. Unfortunately this did not work. I suggest that efforts at GitHub support would be better spent on solving the GitHub mirroring rather than a flaky Bugzilla customization.

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On 10/11/2015 03:24, Mike Milinkovich wrote:
All,

Several years ago the Eclipse Foundation started allowing its projects to host their day-to-day development at GitHub. As part of that, we implemented several processes to ensure that Eclipse projects could maintain their freedom of action should GitHub ever go away, or dramatically alter their terms of service. A number of the projects which host their development at GitHub subsequently asked if they could also start using GitHub Issues, rather than Bugzilla for tracking issues.

I am pleased to announce that at last week's Board meeting, the Eclipse Foundation approved the following two resolutions:

Resolved, that with PMC approval, the Board approves the use of GitHub Issues for Eclipse projects which are hosted at GitHub. The EMO is instructed to backup GitHub Issues data on eclipse.org server infrastructure to ensure the future freedom of action of these projects.

Resolved, the EMO is instructed to provide instructions to Eclipse projects hosted on GitHub on how to properly utilize GitHub features (e.g. Release Pages) to remain compliant with the Eclipse project branding requirements, Eclipse Development Process, and the Eclipse IP Policy.
This does not mean that you can start using GitHub Issues for your project right away. It does mean that the EMO has started working on a plan to enable that, and we hope to do so soon. Please follow bug 481771 if you are interested in progress on this.

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