Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] [tools-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev

[Frederic Gurr <frederic.gurr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Respins should be exceptional and done only in cases of blocking issues
that affect a lot of users and can't be handled with a workaround.
According to Mickael Istrias post, this does not seem to be the case
here. I fear it could set a bad precedent as "oh well, we can always do
a respin". ;)
And the next release is only 13 weeks away...

Obviously, I will accept the Planning Councils decision either way.

Regards,

Fred

On 14.09.2018 16:34, Nick Boldt wrote:
> As a Planning Council member I'd say if webmasters, simrel, and EPP
> people can contain the change, then a respin is acceptable.
> 
> If not, then I would publish a Known Defect / New & Noteworthy doc
> somewhere (linked from the simrel release announcement page(s)) which
> tells people how to get the repaired version of Corrosion from its
> nightly/snapshot/CI site.  That way the effort for the fix is on the
> Corrosion team, not the webmasters/simrel/EPP folks. 
> 
> OTOH, since this is the *first simrel release after Photon*... does it
> set a bad precedent / create bad PR if the simrel & EPP packages are
> *not 100% awesome on GA day*? If so, then maybe the respin is better
> than a KD/N&N doc.
> 
> Adding PC to cc: for discussion & action.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:mistria@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi PMC,
> 
>     Corrosion suffers from a blocking issue:
>     https://github.com/eclipse/corrosion/issues/131 which was included
>     in the build that's in SimRel.
>     It seems like we'd be able to fix it promptly.
> 
>     So if it's easy and not controversial, we'd appreciate if a respin
>     can happen.
> 
>     But if it's too hard,
>     Corrosion is a low popularity plugin, I expect that most
>     installation come from marketplace (Where we can publish a newer
>     version including the patch whenever we want) or by downloading the
>     zip (which represents 0.5% of all downloads). Also, I believe
>     Corrosion is not business-critical to us as maintainers.The impact
>     of this bug will be bad, for sure, but maybe not bad enough...
>     Affected people will be mostly those who have already an EPP package
>     installed and run an upgrade against newer SimRel. However, IIRC,
>     this process is disabled by default.
> 
>     Should we trigger a respin request process, or just live with a
>     broken Corrosion in SimRel or ... ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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