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Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Feedback on the europa update site
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As an example, the EMF-QTV components
are contributed to Europa as a pair of features:
Eclipse Modeling Framework
Data Integrity Frameworks Extender SDK
Eclipse Modeling Framework
Data Integrity Frameworks End-User Features
Both of these comprise, respectively,
the SDK and Run-time features of these three distinct components, to roll
them into one.
Each component individually has two
run-time features, so that the all-in-one run-time Europa feature contains:
org.eclipse.emf.emfqtv.all
- org.eclipse.emf.query
- org.eclipse.emf.query.ocl
- org.eclipse.emf.transaction
- org.eclipse.emf.workspace
- org.eclipse.emf.validation
- org.eclipse.emf.validation.ocl
where nesting shows <include>ed
features. None of these six included features is listed in the Europa
site.xml. If these features had, instead, been prereqed via <requires>
at either the feature or plug-in level, then I think it may have been necessary
to expose them in the site.xml.
AFAIK, update manager has no problem
with multiple features <include>ing the same features, so perhaps
<include> can be used more extensively to avoid filling up the site.xml.
Hope that helps to clarify,
Christian
Christian W. Damus
Component Lead, Eclipse OCL
and EMF-QTV
IBM
Rational Software
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| [eclipse.org-planning-council] RE: [cross-project-issues-dev]
Feedback on the europa update site |
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My memory might fool me, but I
think that my experience has shown me so far, that
"Select Required" does
NOT work for features which are available on the site but not
listed on site.xml . After all,
UM would not be able to display a selection for such
features, would it? And, how would
it know that these features exist after all? I don't
think it scans the remote directory,
I even don't think it would be capable of doing that
through the http: protocol.
I have no time to verify this
again now, but I'd recommend Bjorn to wait with changes
to the build system until someone
has verified what "Select Required" does.
Perhaps Dejan knows off the top
of his head?
Cheers,
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Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Feedback on the europa update
site
Note that I said,
" Of course, there may well be a reality
issue blocking this theory... "
Please confirm that this all works as described, expected, desired before
going off and doing Europa-wide changes.
Jeff
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Hmm, I learn something new every day... Ok, I will modify the Europa build
tool not to require that all features be listed in site.xml. I will send
email to the list after I have done that so that any project who wishes
to modify their portion of the site.xml may do so. Please do not modify
the Europa site.xml until after I have fixed the Europa build tool. Thanks.
Jeff McAffer wrote:
Just to clarify something, to have a feature be available an installable
from an update site it does NOT have to be listed in the site.xml. The
site.xml is used to show users what is available for them to select and
download. Depending on the workflow the features that are used by
other projects could be put on the Europa site but not in the site.xml.
People should then be able to tell update manager to get the required
features as well. Of course, there may well be a reality issue blocking
this theory...
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