Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Reconsidering Talks discu

[Martin Lippert <lippert@xxxxxxx>]

Hey!

I don't want to trade good talks against bad talks, because I think the 
next four (or six or ten or whatever) on the list behind the red line 
are NOT particularly bad or low quality. So that is not the point for me.

To me the Eclipse ecosystem is about diversity, openness, having a 
diverse set of companies on projects, diverse set of committers on 
projects, bringing people together, and being open for everybody - aside 
the projects themselves, of course... :-) From that perspective it's 
somewhat hard for me to accept too many talks from one speaker, about 
one topic, or from one company. I don't like hard rules here, since we 
all need to judge on this with a good feeling for the program and the 
audience. But accepting 8 or 9 talks from one company feels kind of 
wrong to me. This is nothing against itemis or obeo (or any other 
company), they do great stuff and give awesome talks, no question about it.

Cheers,
Martin




On 18.08.12 10:50, Alexander Nyßen wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> if we have the problem of getting good talks in, then I would agree to
> limit the number of talks we accept per person/company, while dropping
> good talks in order to include bad ones IMHO sounds a bit strange.
>
> In general I more agree to limiting the number of talks we accept per
> individual person (because I think we should try to reach a diversity of
> speakers) than to limiting the number of the talks we accept per company
> (and I do not say this because I am unaffacted in the first and affected
> in the latter case). In case the contributions related to a company are
> provided by different people and are dealing with different topics
> (which is mostly the case with itemis, where people from EMF, RMF, GEF,
> Sphinx, and Xtext/Xtend are involved), people should probably not be
> discriminated because they work for the same employer. However, if this
> is to be done to indicate that we strongly encourage diversity, I can
> live with that. As I am personally affected I will however not vote for
> any itemis talks to drop and will thus leave this to you guys.
> Concerning the Obeo talk and Christian's proposal (Why is OSGi dynamic),
> I would agree to the selections.
>
> Concerning the "Desktop apps...", "Jnario...", and "Now that I've Got a
> Model..." extended talks, I would opt for leaving them all extended. I
> am personally convinced that a good program manifests itself in quality,
> not quantity. As such, I would rather spend additional time for
> "quality" talks than trying to include as much talks as we can.
>
> Cheers
> Alexander
>
>
> Am 17.08.2012 um 11:43 schrieb Martin Lippert:
>
> > Hey!
> >
> > > *Reduction options so far:*
> > >
> > > We have recovered a standard talk slot which was simply incorrect data
> > > in the table thanks to Martin....
> > >
> > > *Martin*mention to reduce *“Desktop apps*....” “*Jnario*....” “*Now that
> > > I’ve Got a Model*...” from extended to standard and reject one talk from
> > > itemis and one from Sebastian.
> > >
> > > *Christian*(myself) offered to give away “*Why is OSGi dynamic* ?” “
> >
> > +1
> >
> > > *Cedric*offered to give away “*Chocolate Based Development*”
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I am also thinking about joining my talk:
> > http://www.eclipsecon.org/europe2012/sessions/embracing-eclipse-orion
> >
> > with this one:
> > http://www.eclipsecon.org/europe2012/sessions/orion-integrations
> >
> > I think it would make sense from the content side. I will reach out to
> > Szymon and ask him if that would be possible.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Martin
> >
> >
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