| Ian, 
 
 no - Martin is not against Eclipse at all. It's just that his presentation on DSLs was not so much up-to-date. 
 
 Peter 
 
 On 14.09.2010, at 18:40, Ian Skerrett wrote: 
    Peter, we should definitely not have someone be a keynote that
    thinks Eclipse is wrong.  I trust you to know Martin's views in this
    area. 
    
    I do think having a modeling oriented keynote would be interesting.
     
    Ian
    
     
    On 9/14/2010 11:55 AM,  peter.friese@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
     
      Ian, did you see my Xtext session at Jazoon? The video is
        available on Parleys and I used a bit of video footage of one of
        Martin's talks to prove him wrong :-) 
       
       
      But still, he might be an interesting keynoter. 
        
        Peter 
        Sent from my iPhone 4  
      
      
         What about Martin Fowler.    I think he just wrote a book
          about DSL's so it might be interesting to an Eclipse audience? 
          
          On 9/14/2010 11:40 AM, David Carver wrote:
           
            Another suggestion is Joshua Bloch: 
             
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAb7hSCtvGw 
             
            Dave 
             
            On 09/14/2010 08:25 AM, Chris Aniszczyk wrote:
            Here's a suggestion from Shaun. 
               
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                  Smalltalk jokes
                  aside, Dan Ingalls might be a good keynote.  Check out
                  his recent work on the  Lively Kernel which is pretty
                  amazing.  Here's his  QCon session.   I missed his
                  session which was the day before I arrived but I have
                  seen him speak at a keynote at OOPSLA with Alan Kay.
                   
                      Shaun
                   
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