Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Organizing the Panels

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Are we voting? Or meeting on Wednesday? 

I'd vote against these two. In both case, it seems
like they are encouraging the "bashing" of other peoples stuff
... which I think is more the heat-but-no-light type of friction. 

1347 - The Coalition Against EMF
1455 - Scraping the Barnacles - What parts of Eclipse...

Perhaps they are just trying to appear
interesting with a confrontational tone, but they are both hard to evaluate
without more details or knowing who would participate. I assume we won't
have that, by the time we have to decide? 

Maybe I'm stating the obvious ... just
trying to help the process by giving explicit feedback. 

Thanks,

From:	Oisin Hurley <oisin.hurley@xxxxxxxxx>
To:	Eclipsecon Program Committee list <eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	01/22/2010 02:07 PM
Subject:	[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Organizing the Panels
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Let's talk about Panels.

There are nine panel slots. These are in the submission system -

1209 - Ask The AC Panel
1211 - Eclipse for Mobile Application Development Panel
1237 - Application Models for OSGi BoF
1347 - The Coalition Against EMF
1441 - Developing at Eclipse
1442 - Build and Continuous Integration with Eclipse
1455 - Scraping the Barnacles - What parts of Eclipse...
1456 - I Love This Project, But Where Are The Docs?
1525 - Testing and TDD - the Good, the Bad and the Ugly
1528 - Eclipse Modeling Panel

Hit https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/search.php?search=type%7E%27panel%27
for the list.

These are on the Wiki https://www.eclipsecon.org/wiki/2010_Panels

Testing and TDD -> this is 1525
The Future of App Servers -> not in the system
Future Timelines for Open Source -> not in the system
Making Money from Open Source -> not in the system
Eclipse Tooling in the Mobile Industry -> this is 1211?
Developing at Eclipse -> this is 1441
Build and Continuous Integration with Eclipse -> this is 1442
Eclipse for the Future - e4 -> not in the system
OSGi on the Server -> could be 1237?
Modeling -> 1528

One other Panel that was mentioned was an 'Analyst' Panel,
this may very well correspond to the 'Future timelines for
open source', I can't remember.

We want to make a distinction between Panels and BoFs -
there are some of the above that might be better as a
BoF.

Each Panel we take on needs to have mostly-named set of
people and a named moderator. Once we accept a panel we
need to fabricate some questions and also collect more
questions from the general public. A name will go into
the submission system as author, that person is responsible
for managing the Panel.

We have a deadline for a decision on which Panels to take
on, and that deadline is Wednesday next, 27th January.

Let's discuss these panels and their potential attractiveness
to the attendees - controversy is good, but informative
discussion generating light rather than heat is what we are
looking for.

Please note that Donald is earnestly seeking an extra
hour for a Director's choice talk. If we believe that we don't
have enough potential quality to fill the 9 panel slots, then
we should consider handing over one slot to Don.

 --oh
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