At the momement, I'm for dropping the TDD talk, mainly because I think
1442 is more critical at this time, and also because I suspect Uncle
Bob's talk will touch on this.  TDD can be moved to a Unconference/BOF
session. 
 
So +1 for 1442. 
 
1347 could get my vote, for the right mix of tension if they get a mix
of EMF and those concerned about EMF on the panel.  It would have to
moderated well as well. 
 
+1 for 1455 as well, depending on how well it fleshes out.  We have
bloat. we need to get rid of. 
 
+1 for Donald as well. 
 
Dave 
 
 
 
On 01/22/2010 11:10 AM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
1211 is the mobile talk I was talking about. 
   
+1 for giving one of the slots to Donald. 
   
Doug. 
   
  On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Oisin
Hurley  <oisin.hurley@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
   Let's
talk about Panels. 
     
There are nine panel slots. These are in the submission system - 
     
1209 - Ask The AC Panel 
1211 - Eclipse for Mobile Application Development Panel 
1237 - Application Models for OSGi BoF 
1347 - The Coalition Against EMF 
1441 - Developing at Eclipse 
1442 - Build and Continuous Integration with Eclipse 
1455 - Scraping the Barnacles - What parts of Eclipse... 
1456 - I Love This Project, But Where Are The Docs? 
1525 - Testing and TDD - the Good, the Bad and the Ugly 
1528 - Eclipse Modeling Panel 
     
Hit https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/search.php?search=type%7E%27panel%27 
for the list. 
     
These are on the Wiki https://www.eclipsecon.org/wiki/2010_Panels 
     
Testing and TDD -> this is 1525 
The Future of App Servers -> not in the system 
Future Timelines for Open Source -> not in the system 
Making Money from Open Source -> not in the system 
Eclipse Tooling in the Mobile Industry -> this is 1211? 
Developing at Eclipse -> this is 1441 
Build and Continuous Integration with Eclipse -> this is 1442 
Eclipse for the Future - e4 -> not in the system 
OSGi on the Server -> could be 1237? 
Modeling -> 1528 
     
One other Panel that was mentioned was an 'Analyst' Panel, 
this may very well correspond to the 'Future timelines for 
open source', I can't remember. 
     
We want to make a distinction between Panels and BoFs - 
there are some of the above that might be better as a 
BoF. 
     
Each Panel we take on needs to have mostly-named set of 
people and a named moderator. Once we accept a panel we 
need to fabricate some questions and also collect more 
questions from the general public. A name will go into 
the submission system as author, that person is responsible 
for managing the Panel. 
     
We have a deadline for a decision on which Panels to take 
on, and that deadline is Wednesday next, 27th January. 
     
Let's discuss these panels and their potential attractiveness 
to the attendees - controversy is good, but informative 
discussion generating light rather than heat is what we are 
looking for. 
     
Please note that Donald is earnestly seeking an extra 
hour for a Director's choice talk. If we believe that we don't 
have enough potential quality to fill the 9 panel slots, then 
we should consider handing over one slot to Don. 
     
 --oh 
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