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RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] EclipseCon Deciders Call #3 : Fri 8jan10 1100est Summary
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So I need to make an appeal for the Reporting talks and our only extended
standard talk that we would like to see.
1405 BIRT to the Bare Metal : Framwork and API
This was categorized as a project talk, which I think is inaccurate. The
Bare Metal talk is designed to demonstrate how BIRT can be used and
integrated into other code. It's focus is on the BIRT APIs, not on the
project itself. I have seen the talk and there is no way that it can be fit
into 25 minutes. For anyone that is considering using BIRT as a
communication tool, this is the best way to get the info they need to make
an informed decision about our technology.
The presenter for the talk, Jason Weathersby, is a very good speaker and has
always received the very highest feedback from participants.
Behind the platform, the BIRT user group is one of the most active and
largest at eclipse. Looking at our newsgroup stats indicates that fully 15%
of all newsgroup traffic is about BIRT. The newsgroup stats are here
(http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhklRNHSa1rMdE1sU3ZKaXVUY01mbzVvemd
SUy1Jemc&hl=en)
Yet according to this allocation, BIRT will have at best 3.5 hours of time
at the conference:
1 Tutorial
3 Standard 25 minute talks (and this is still questionable)
We spent a lot of time working as a team to pick the right balance of talks
that will adequately represent and cover our project. Rather than just
taking what is submitted, we submitted four coordinated talks that we feel
provide adequate coverage to our work.
For people that don't know about BIRT at all we have:
1467 Jumpstart: Making Your App Shine with Rich Reports and Visualizations
Using BIRT
For those that are aware of the product and want to know about the APIs and
how it works we have:
1405 BIRT to the Bare Metal: Framework and API
For those that want to know the basics of how a BIRT report is developed we
have:
1416 Getting Started With BIRT
For the people that want to become proficient in the more advanced aspects
of BIRT report development we have:
1472 Flexible, Powerful Reports Using BIRT Scripting
The importance of these talks is balanced from first to last.
As it stands many of the tags have 2, 3 or 4 extended standard talks (I
realize that many of these talks are shared between the tags). It seems
like a project as large and with as many users as BIRT deserves at least one
extended standard talk.
Overall the BIRT project looks like it will have at best 3.5 hours of talks.
Given that there are at least seven individuals that will have more stage
time than the entire BIRT project it seems that things are a little out of
balance.
Thanks for your consideration,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Oisin Hurley
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:23 PM
To: Eclipsecon Program Committee list
Subject: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] EclipseCon Deciders Call
#3 : Fri 8jan10 1100est Summary
So, today on the call we had
Oisin, David, Dave, Ed, Don, Ketan, Doug and Wayne
The mission was to haggle over the long talks and we have done
so and reached an accomodation.
You can see the results in the haggling-extendedtalks-08jan10
document in the shared folder, but I shall also summarize them
here, with supporting dialog.
There were a few 'principles' that we had consensus on:
1. Talks that take in a mix of different technologies are better than
talks that focus on one technology.
2. 'Project' style of talks should be 25 minute talks, unless there's
a good reason not to be.
3. Extended talk requests that already have tutorials on the topic
are less likely to get a slot than ones with no tutorial
So here's what we came up with. Others who were on the call --
please let me know if I have missed some of the discussions, or
captured/summarized incorrectly.
50 min
---------
* 1095 OSGi Best and Worst Practices
Selected as part of the OSGi DevCon
* 1134 Eclipse to the Rescue
Selected as Top 6
* 1203 A world-class Linux IDE: how do we get there from here?
Selected as Top 6
* 1224 Composite Bundles - Isolating Applications in a Collaborative
OSGi World
Selected as part of the OSGi DevCon
* 1226 JavaEE 6 Application Development, OSGi and Eclipse Users
Selected because of the heady mix of various related technologies in
one talk.
* 1278 Modeling Project Runway 2010
Selected because it composes a series of sub-element talks that free
up space in the standard and lightning zones, as well as the multiple
technologies showcased
* 1295 Javascript Debugged
Selected because there was a lot of progress made on this code over
the last year; because it's a hot topic for browser-based development;
because it feeds into the e4 capabilities.
* 1359 OneBench Reloaded - Pushd the Modularity Story in an
Enterprise-wide Rich Client Stack
Selected for technology mix, real-world experience, lessons learned
report
* 1373 Scale, Share and Store your Models with CDO
Selected for being a high-demand project and for being a roll-up of a
collection of other talks of standard and lightning nature
So if you have done your counting correctly you will see this is NINE
talks, one less than the ten we have budget for. Why? Well, there is
the inevitable Director's Choice. This is something that's been off our
radar a little since we've been in the thick of things. We need to reserve
1 extended talk and 2 standard talks for this. Start lobbying Mike now...
25 min
---------
Project talks
* 1146 Eclipse PHP Development Tools
* 1349 An Introduction to Java Profiling using Eclipse TPTP
* 1388 Searching the Cloud - the EclipseRT Umbrella
* 1405 BIRT to the Bare Metal : Framwork and API
* 1506 The Future of Mylyn
Others
* 1228 Eclipse in the Enterprise: lessons from Google
We just had to squeeze it. There is an 'Enterprise Day' on Thursday,
where these guys can extend their pitch, if necessary.
* 1333 The State of the Art in Spring and Grails Developer Tooling
We're interested in the Eclipse part of the Spring tooling, not so
much in the Grails part.
* 1429 Working in the Cloud: Development, Deployment and Project
Management for Force.com
Potentially interesting cloud-related talk from Salesforce.
* 1473 Participate in Eclipse for your Success!
This is a business-y talk. I don't see it getting past the 25minute slot
cull, frankly :)
0 mins
---------
Foregoing were the survivors and the casualties. Here are the
talks that have toe tags. We need to be brutal.
* 1324 Write once, test everywhere? Cross-platform development
and testing with Eclipse
Concern that the talk is too general and focussed on the concepts
and planning related to cross-platform development, which is something
that most attendees should have some inkling of already.
* 1513 A Mind-Blowing Use of Eclipse Technologies
Nothing but smoke and mirrors here it would appear, no confidence
that this would turn out to be focussed and useful talk.
That's it for the moment, comments, please.
--oh
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