Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Extended Talks for Eclips

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Wayne, that sub-project
overview talks, like 1146, would be good for 25 min. talks,
[all "bunched together", if
possible].  
but otherwise agree with Oisin ... except
for ...  the deep dive talks. I think these two 
would be best to leave at 50 minutes:


 *  1295  _javascript_ Debugged
 *  1324  Write once, test everywhere? Cross platform development
and
                testing with Eclipse

The _javascript_ one I think will be very
popular this year. Less sure about popularity of 
cross-platform development and testing
at this point in time.

From:	Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	Eclipsecon Program Committee list <eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	01/07/2010 08:37 PM
Subject:	Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Extended Talks for        EclipseCon
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IMHO, project talks, particularly those in the form
of 1146, should be 
25 minutes.

Besides that, I'm comfortable with what Oisin has suggested.

Wayne

David Carver wrote:
> I would keep 1097, not reject it.  Specifically since he said
he was 
> willing to focus on the Groovy Tooling aspect and less on the groovy
> language introdocution.  More meat to knaw off the bone that
way.
>
> Personally, I'd wake time off all the Project Introduction/Round robin
> talks.    I'd give preference for Extended Talks that showed
off real 
> world case studies.   1134 is a great example of the type of
talk that 
> I think is good for an extended talk and the other talks in my opinion
> have to meet that same level of uniqueness and mix.
>
> So I would keep 1226 as an Extended Talks it is showing inter 
> operation of a wide variety of Eclipse technologies and is talking
> about how OSGi is starting to be used more with the application 
> servers which is a good thing.
>
> So here are my 8 (I really only found 8 that meet my Eclipse to the
> Rescue criteria):
>
> * 1095 OSGi Best and Worst Practices
> * 1134 Eclipse to the Rescue
> * 1224 Composite Bundles - Isolating Applications in a
> Collaborative OSGi world
> * 1203  A world-class Linux IDE: how do we get there from here?
> * 1226  Java EE 6 application development, OSGi and Eclipse users
> * 1359  OneBench Reloaded - Pushing the (OSGI) Modularity
>             Story in an Enterprise-wide
Rich Client Stack
> * 1429  Working in the Cloud: Development, Deployment and
>              Project Management
for Force.com
> * 1228  Eclipse in the Enterprise: Lessons from Google
>
>
>
> I would reduce all the project talks to 25 minutes, make them get
to 
> the point. I know in the past particularly the PHP (PDT) talks easily
> could have been condesed to 25 minutes.
>
> Dave "hack and slash" Carver
>
> Oisin Hurley wrote:
>> Looking into the submission system I see 21 extended talks that
we
>> need to shove down to 10. I just thought I'd list my thoughts
here
>> to see if it gets some discussions going :)
>>
>> * 1095 OSGi Best and Worst Practices
>> This is accepted by OSGi DevCon - KEEP
>>
>> * 1134 Eclipse to the Rescue
>> This is a Top 6 talk, so KEEP
>>
>> * 1224 Composite Bundles - Isolating Applications in a
>> Collaborative OSGi world
>> Accepted by the OSGi DevCon - KEEP
>>
>> * 1203  A world-class Linux IDE: how do we get there from
here?
>> This is a Top 6, so KEEP
>>
>> Now there follows a number of talks that are basically about
>> Eclipse projects.
>>
>> *  1146  Eclipse PHP Development Tools (PDT)
>> *  1278  Modeling Project Runway 2010
>> *  1349  An Introduction to Java Profiling using Eclipse
TPTP
>> *  1373  Scale, Share and Store your Models with CDO
>> *  1388  Searching the Cloud - the EclipseRT Umbrella!
>> *  1405  BIRT to the Bare Metal: Framework and API
>> *  1506  The future of Mylyn
>>
>> Actions: reduce time on 1506 - do demos at Unconf; keep 1405,
>> 1388, 1349, 1278, 1146; reduce time on 1373;
>>
>> And there are some that are about non-Eclipse projects
>>
>> * 1226  Java EE 6 application development, OSGi and Eclipse
users
>> * 1333  The state of the art in Spring and Grails developer
tooling
>>
>> Actions: reduce time on 1226, 1333;
>>
>> And there are ones that are like case studies, or business-y
>>
>> *  1429  Working in the Cloud: Development, Deployment
and
>>               Project Management
for Force.com
>> *  1359  OneBench Reloaded - Pushing the (OSGI) Modularity
>>              Story in an Enterprise-wide
Rich Client Stack
>> *  1228  Eclipse in the Enterprise: Lessons from Google
>>
>> Actions: reduce time on 1228, 1429;  keep 1359
>>
>> Then there's a kind-of a 'deep dive' style of talk
>>
>> *  1295  _javascript_ Debugged
>> *  1324  Write once, test everywhere? Cross platform
development and
>>                testing
with Eclipse
>>
>> Actions:  tentative reject on 1324; reduce time on 1295
>>
>> Then there's talks that I think don't require 50 minutes
>>
>> * 1097 Groovy for Java Developers
>> * 1473  Participate in Eclipse for Your Success!
>> * 1513  A Mind Blowing Use of Eclipse Technologies
>>
>> Actions:  tentative reject on all three
>>
>> Oof, that was savage. Summary:
>>
>> Extended talks:  1095, 1134, 1146, 1203, 1224, 1278, 1349,
>> 1359, 1388, 1405
>>
>> Cut to standard: 1226, 1229, 1295, 1429, 1333, 1373, 1506
>>
>> Reject: 1097, 1473, 1513, 1324
>>
>> Pile on there with comments.
>>
>>  --oh
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