Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Extended Talks for Eclips

[David Carver <d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx>]

I would keep 1097, not reject it.  Specifically since he said he was 
willing to focus on the Groovy Tooling aspect and less on the groovy 
language introdocution.  More meat to knaw off the bone that way.

Personally, I'd wake time off all the Project Introduction/Round robin 
talks.    I'd give preference for Extended Talks that showed off real 
world case studies.   1134 is a great example of the type of talk that I 
think is good for an extended talk and the other talks in my opinion 
have to meet that same level of uniqueness and mix.

So I would keep 1226 as an Extended Talks it is showing inter operation 
of a wide variety of Eclipse technologies and is talking about how OSGi 
is starting to be used more with the application servers which is a good 
thing.

So here are my 8 (I really only found 8 that meet my Eclipse to the 
Rescue criteria):

* 1095 OSGi Best and Worst Practices
* 1134 Eclipse to the Rescue
* 1224 Composite Bundles - Isolating Applications in a
Collaborative OSGi world
* 1203  A world-class Linux IDE: how do we get there from here?
* 1226  Java EE 6 application development, OSGi and Eclipse users
* 1359  OneBench Reloaded - Pushing the (OSGI) Modularity
            Story in an Enterprise-wide Rich Client Stack
* 1429  Working in the Cloud: Development, Deployment and
             Project Management for Force.com
* 1228  Eclipse in the Enterprise: Lessons from Google



I would reduce all the project talks to 25 minutes, make them get to the 
point. I know in the past particularly the PHP (PDT) talks easily could 
have been condesed to 25 minutes.

Dave "hack and slash" Carver

Oisin Hurley wrote:
> Looking into the submission system I see 21 extended talks that we
> need to shove down to 10. I just thought I'd list my thoughts here
> to see if it gets some discussions going :)
>
> * 1095 OSGi Best and Worst Practices
> This is accepted by OSGi DevCon - KEEP
>
> * 1134 Eclipse to the Rescue
> This is a Top 6 talk, so KEEP
>
> * 1224 Composite Bundles - Isolating Applications in a
> Collaborative OSGi world
> Accepted by the OSGi DevCon - KEEP
>
> * 1203  A world-class Linux IDE: how do we get there from here?
> This is a Top 6, so KEEP
>
> Now there follows a number of talks that are basically about
> Eclipse projects.
>
> *  1146  Eclipse PHP Development Tools (PDT)
> *  1278  Modeling Project Runway 2010
> *  1349  An Introduction to Java Profiling using Eclipse TPTP
> *  1373  Scale, Share and Store your Models with CDO
> *  1388  Searching the Cloud - the EclipseRT Umbrella!
> *  1405  BIRT to the Bare Metal: Framework and API
> *  1506  The future of Mylyn
>
> Actions: reduce time on 1506 - do demos at Unconf; keep 1405,
> 1388, 1349, 1278, 1146; reduce time on 1373;
>
> And there are some that are about non-Eclipse projects
>
> * 1226  Java EE 6 application development, OSGi and Eclipse users
> * 1333  The state of the art in Spring and Grails developer tooling
>
> Actions: reduce time on 1226, 1333;
>
> And there are ones that are like case studies, or business-y
>
> *  1429  Working in the Cloud: Development, Deployment and
>               Project Management for Force.com
> *  1359  OneBench Reloaded - Pushing the (OSGI) Modularity
>              Story in an Enterprise-wide Rich Client Stack
> *  1228  Eclipse in the Enterprise: Lessons from Google
>
> Actions: reduce time on 1228, 1429;  keep 1359
>
> Then there's a kind-of a 'deep dive' style of talk
>
> *  1295  JavaScript Debugged
> *  1324  Write once, test everywhere? Cross platform development and
>                testing with Eclipse
>
> Actions:  tentative reject on 1324; reduce time on 1295
>
> Then there's talks that I think don't require 50 minutes
>
> * 1097 Groovy for Java Developers
> * 1473  Participate in Eclipse for Your Success!
> * 1513  A Mind Blowing Use of Eclipse Technologies
>
> Actions:  tentative reject on all three
>
> Oof, that was savage. Summary:
>
> Extended talks:  1095, 1134, 1146, 1203, 1224, 1278, 1349,
> 1359, 1388, 1405
>
> Cut to standard: 1226, 1229, 1295, 1429, 1333, 1373, 1506
>
> Reject: 1097, 1473, 1513, 1324
>
> Pile on there with comments.
>
>  --oh
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