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RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Long talk breakdownby projects and the two thematic virtual tracks (embedded and RCP)

I like the idea of going back to 45 minute slots.  Yeah, the conference will feel tight again, but it seems worse to compress so much good content into short talks.  Even with the additional slots, we will still find ourselves rejecting very good talks for lack of time.

 

It does beg the question though:  in future conferences, how should we address this?  If we assume that the Eclipse community continues to grow rapidly, does this problem just get harder and harder each year?  Do we need more parallel sessions and additional tracks in future years?  For example, the following breakdown:

 

- Application-specific (embedded, rcp, etc) – both developer and user perhaps

- “newbie” developer/user – put all of the intro stuff here and schedule accordingly

- Advanced developer – showcase the project changes

- Business

- Cool stuff – all of the extras – “Eclipse in the wild”

 

It’s premature to talk about this I supposed.  It’s just been on my mind so I thought I’d send it out.

 


From: eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:45 AM
To: Eclipsecon Program Committee list
Subject: Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Long talk breakdownby projects and the two thematic virtual tracks (embedded and RCP)

 

PC Members,
Thanks for working on this so diligently. I think the program is shaping up nicely. 

From the discussion on the “Developer Track Subcommittee” telecon Monday evening. Partitioning the talks should help us hone in on finalizing the long talk portion of the program. Note that not all of these selections are finalized yet (because in some cases we need project feedback, additional discussion, etc.)



Given the difficulty of picking only 10 additional long talks, we might want to consider trading in some short talks as well.

I'd really prefer to see a program that does not require trading in (any? very many?) short talks. The advantage of short talks is that they give more people the chance to talk about their technology and their ideas. At a 6-to-1 ratio, the short talks are a good use of time...

Perhaps we should consider reconfiguring the conference. Right now long talks are 1 hour. Last year they were 45 minutes. I lengthened them this year because I felt that 45 minutes was never quite enough for a good technical talk. But if we shortened them to 45 minutes, we could have one more session per day for a total of 15 more slots. However, it means that only 5 x 9 minute short talks would fit into a slot.  It would mean 75 total slots: five parallel tracks of five sessions (plus lunch, plus keynotes) per day. That's a lot of content - it would make the program feel tight again. But maybe that's a good thing...
If you are (collectively) interested in this idea, let Tim know and we'll discuss it on Friday.

I'm sure you know this already, but just a reminder that you don't have to just accept the "most public voted" submissions - you are a committer-based meritocracy and you at the top of that merit tree. Thus you (collectively and using the open source rules) have the final say. The public voting is for your guidance; they are like bug reports (in fact, they are bug reports!) with patch files.  You can choose to accept them or not, based on their merits.  If you think a talk with a lot of votes is not worthy of being in the program - say so. If you think a talk with few votes is important - say so. In the end, just like when you write code, your names are associated with the program content - you will be listed on the website and the printed program.

 

 

 

Technology (no specific allocation, but this seems like too few)

  • Mylar (#?) [ACCEPTED]

Most of the Technology projects are candidates for short talks rather than long talks. In my wildest dreams, I can only imagine long talks from:

If I only get one more, I'd choose PTP - it's a better Technology talk than ORM.

Everything else can do nicely with a short talk. (I'm sure they'll want a long talk, but their stuff isn't mature enough to qualify, IMO.)


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