Be careful what you wish for. :) But
thanks for asking.
I myself am not a fan of "panel
discussion", in general, but especially this type where to topics
are very high level and not much to "discuss". I have seen a
few good panel discussions but only when there was something controversial
to discuss such as "modularity in Java" or "Typed vs Un-Typed
languages". I also recall the "PMC Panel Discussions" we
used to have at EclipseCon closing session and it seemed like they were
not very interesting. And, it seemed to me the audience was not that interested.
Granted, it may have been due to the (lack of) presentation skills of the
people sitting on stage ... but, I think you would have nearly the same
If anything "public" is done,
a very short Q&A session might by ok, with a 10-20 minute "introduction"
done by one person. But honestly I do not think the "community at
large" is all that interested in the Planning Council, and the 10
people who would have opinions, that they would like to state in the form
of a question, have probably already made themselves heard one way or another?
Or, I suppose you could make it controversial,
and say the topic was "Let's do away with the Planning Council and
Simultaneous Release: Pros and Cons" but that has the risk of being
more confrontational than constructive and I would not want to be in the
middle of that. Guess it depends who would sit on the "pro" and
Finally, I do not like seeing "Orbit"
mentioned as though its future was part of the Planning Council mission.
It is not. Yes, the Planning Council sometimes worries over it -- but,
only slightly more than a few other projects we worry over that are more
clearly not in our mission. Orbit will either survive or die like any other
OS project -- not that interesting of a future to discuss -- at least in
an open meeting. :)
To be honest, I think the 10:30-12:35session will suffice for group discussion. Ant then maybe reserve the room
for the afternoon time for "break out sessions" in case anyone
wants to form into groups of 2 to 4 people to discuss something in more
detail with the intent of outlining an action plan for improvement or change?
This would have to be done, though, in the spirit of "doing the work",
and not sure anyone at EclipseCon could commit to that? That is, would
not like to see "pie in the sky" action plans.
I hope this note at least spurs more
discussion of what is needed and what would be interesting.
Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> To:
01/18/2016 05:03 PM Subject:
EclipseCon 2016 AC/PC session Sent by:
As we discussed on last Thursday's call, we have a big chunk of time set
aside for the Architecture and Planning Councils to meet during the conference:
we overlap with the session slots on Thursday (10:30-12:35 & 13:45-15:05).
We'll have lunch with the rest of the conference attendees.
I'm thinking that it might be cool to have open Q&A sessions and invite
the community to join us in the afternoon (e.g. one for the AC and one
for the PC). We might consider live streaming these sessions via Google
Hangout or something.
10:30-12:35: General discussion (closed session). Role of the Architecture
Council, Evolution of the Eclipse Development Process, Eclipse IDE as a
product, FEEP priorities 12:35-13:45: Lunch 13:45-14:20: Planning Council Q&A Panel. Changes to the release schedule,
joining the simultaneous release, the future of Orbit 14:30-15:05: Architecture Q&A Panel. Eclipse Development Process, technical
The topics listed here are just ideas off the top of my head. The timing
seems like a natural fit to me, but we can tweak everything. I welcome
Note that, if we're going to do a panel discussion, we'll need to decide
fairly quickly to make sure that we allocate an appropriately-sized room.
Note also that I haven't discussed this with the Planning Council yet,
but I'm pretty sure that most of the PC is represented on this list
anyway. I do intend to bring this formally to the PC later this week, so
please provide your input sooner rather than later.