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Re: [eclipse-pmc] A request to decouple ACL for core components
As Boris suggests, there is a great deal of back-and-forth created by the current structure, resulting in confusion for the webmasters, committers, and the community. 

I'd like you to seriously consider this as an opportunity to simplify.
We have been working over the past few years to reduce the number of UNIX groups for each project. In fact, we intend to work toward a state where we have exactly one UNIX group per project. FWIW, collapsing your group structure does not require any kind of community review; you can just work with the webmaster to get it done.
The CDT project has, for example, been very successful in collapsing their group structure into a single group and managing finer-grained access using social convention. Many other projects have had similar success.
I'm curious to understand the "new committers usually end up in most but not all of these groups" part. For what reason are some committers restricted from some parts of the code? 

Thanks,

Wayne

Boris Bokowski wrote:
If we go ahead with the required project creations/moves/removals (most of which would be to merge a number of existing unix groups), would it make sense to merge other Unix groups at the same time?
Just to be clear, I don't want to complicate things and would be fine with just doing what's necessary to do the split suggested by Szymon.
But I am wondering if this may be a good opportunity to merge all of (plat-ui-home, plat-rcp, plat-ui-nav, plat-jfaces, plat-ui-bindings, plat-ui-present, plat-ui-tabbed, carbon-ui) into plat-ui. All these groups exist only for historical reasons, and new committers usually end up in most but not all of these groups, leading to unnecessary back-and-forth between the new committers, myself, the PMC, and the webmaster. 

Boris
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, John Arthorne <John_Arthorne@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:John_Arthorne@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: 


    Thinking more about this, I believe this will be a fairly
    complicated change. I suggest that Szymon write up a wiki page or
    similar describing the proposed changes in detail, and we can all
    review it before asking the foundation to make the changes. There
    are currently the following ACL's on eclipse.org
    <http://eclipse.org> related to platform core: plat-core,
    plat-testsboot, plat-core-mac, plat-core-photon, plat-rel-core,
    plat-core-hpux, core-variables. We need to know what the new
    groups are called (probably eclipse.platform.runtime and
    eclipse.plaform.resources), and what projects map to each ACL.
    Hopefully we can completely replace the seven existing ACL's with
    just two. From the Foundation perspective this is effectively a
    set of project creations/moves/removals but hopefully we can do it
    without too much process overhead.




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    We discussed this today in the PMC call and approve this change.
    Please
    file a bug to request the new groups along with their members.

    Dani

    >I think that due to recent committer nominations in the core
    components,
    it
    >would make sense to split the commit groups
    >to better match the reality.
    >
    >There should be at least split into core.resources and core.runtime.
    >
    >Thanks
    >--
    >Szymon Brandys


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