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Re: [eclipse-pmc] Fw: [platform-releng-dev] [eclipse-build]Build I20100526-1423 (Timestamp: 201005261423): Build failed
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In general our builds need to be either much finer grained or more monolithic. Since the latter is not really possible, we need more flexibility to build smaller increments. As was pointed out, as we use more and more things from other projects there is a circularity. Trying to force this in to a sequential stack will be challenging to say the least. We see this all the time in realworld projects that are not as neatly structured as Eclipse.
For Indigo we need to do something about this. Perhaps one of the many parties interested in build systems for OSGi would be willing to solve the problem? For now we just have to be careful.
Jeff
On 2010-05-27, at 8:56 AM, Daniel Megert wrote:
>> So rather than coming up with rules to prevent ppl to consume other
> bundles for other components, let's work on making the process of consuming
> external jars smoother.
> Fine with me if we can do this but otherwise I think it makes sense to
> adjust the train to reality i.e. some projects are before us and we are
> then +0.5 or +1.0. As you said it not just caused breakage but also stress
> to actually bring in that change so short before the end.
>
> Dani
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> It is definitely not an issue with ECF. ECF fixed a bug (
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=313519), recommended p2 to
> consume a new version, I did it because it was useful to the our end users.
>
> In this case the main issue is the build system which makes it complex to
> consume other jars, which is made worse when JavaDoc generation is involved
> since most of the classpath information of the plug-ins as to be replicated
> in some obscure file contained in platform.doc.isv. Now, for the record,
> the last failure after I reverted the ECF changes were caused by a problem
> at the foundation).
>
>> Eclipse PMC must forbid this for the future: either they can
>> provide their latest stuff earlier (lets say one week before we have a
>> deadline) or we go with what we have.
> ECF has always (at least through 3.6) been providing their stuffs
> early. However when it comes to the end-game the iterations are so short
> that we don't really have much time. Remember that in Helios the complete
> train is shipped in ONE week.
> The reality here is that Eclipse SDK is not really +0 but +0.5, and
> overtime, I can see it become a +1 (for example how would the SDK consume a
> last minute change in EMF for Eclipse 4.0, or how in the future will the
> SDK consume the equinox built that will be run separately).
> So rather than coming up with rules to prevent ppl to consume other
> bundles for other components, let's work on making the process of consuming
> external jars smoother.
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> On 2010-05-27, at 2:40 AM, Daniel Megert wrote:
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>> Oh boy! We are in RC3 and all three recent builds failed and I expect
>> I20100527-0800 (our projected RC3 build !!!) to fail as well. This is
> just
>> not acceptable and it is not the first time that switching to the newest
>> ECF code at a very late time burns us. I'm not saying it's a failure in
> ECF
>> alone: it also seems that just the process of switching is error prone. I
>> think we the Eclipse PMC must forbid this for the future: either they can
>> provide their latest stuff earlier (lets say one week before we have a
>> deadline) or we go with what we have.
>>
>> BTW: I could not find a bug with the appropriate approvals in Eclipse or
> RT
>> for this change - Jeff, did I miss something?
>>
>> Dani
>> ----- Forwarded by Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM on 27.05.2010 08:18 -----
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>> |Re: [platform-releng-dev] [eclipse-build]Build I20100526-1423
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>> I investigated this for quite a while and don't understand why the build
> is
>> failing. I've asked Pascal to revert the ecf change to allow the build
> to
>> proceed for other teams while I continue to debug.
>>
>> Kim
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>> Pascal Rapicault
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>> <pascal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Sent by: To
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>> platform-releng-dev-bounces@ec "Eclipse platform release
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>> lipse.org engineering list."
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>> <platform-releng-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> cc
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>> 05/26/2010 03:21 PM
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>> Subject
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>> Re: [platform-releng-dev]
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>> Please respond to [eclipse-build]Build
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>> "Eclipse platform release I20100526-1423 (Timestamp:
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>> engineering list." 201005261423): Build failed
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>> <platform-releng-dev@eclipse.
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>> This looks related to the change I did this morning to consume the new
>> version of ECF.
>> I updated the map files and the java doc generation....
>> I'll help Kim
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>> On 2010-05-26, at 3:13 PM, Kim_Moir@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>>> Build I20100526-1423 (Timestamp: 201005261423): The following error
>> occurred while executing this line:
>>> /builds/I201005261423/org.eclipse.releng.eclipsebuilder/buildAll.xml:185:
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>> The following error occurred while executing this line:
>>> /builds/I201005261423/org.eclipse.releng.basebuilder/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.6.0.v20100512/scripts/build.xml:91:
>
>> The following error occurred while executing this line:
>>> /builds/I201005261423/org.eclipse.releng.eclipsebuilder/eclipse/buildConfigs/master/customTargets.xml:18:
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>> The following error occurred while executing this line:
>>> /builds/I201005261423/org.eclipse.releng.eclipsebuilder/eclipse/buildConfigs/master/allElements.xml:16:
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>> The following error occurred while executing this line:
>>> /builds/I201005261423/org.eclipse.releng.basebuilder/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.6.0.v20100512/scripts/genericTargets.xml:107:
>
>> Processing inclusion from feature master-ecf: Bundle
>> org.eclipse.ecf_3.1.0.v20100526-0200 failed to resolve.:
>>> Missing required plug-in
>> org.eclipse.equinox.common_[3.5.0,3.6.0).
>>> Missing required plug-in
>> org.eclipse.equinox.registry_[3.4.0,3.5.0).
>>> Missing required plug-in
>> org.eclipse.ecf.identity_[3.1.0,3.2.0).
>>>
>>>
>>> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/I20100526-1423
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