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RE: [eclipse-pmc] Documenting dependencies on operating systems andJRE's

Yes, I have had contact with the EMO and they advised me to enter the CQ's. I don't just invent work for myself ;)

I also don't see much point in documenting the obvious and don't see the particular risk, but it seemed easier to just enter a blanket CQ with this list than to debate it with them further.  We do have CQ's for specific windowing and browser libraries we invoke such as GTK, Mozilla, etc, but we don't currently document our references to the core operating system itself. Since it appears to be acceptable, I prefer just saying a general dependency like "Windows XP" rather than further listing specific OS libraries we invoke. I made the suggestion that they publish a list of "pre-approved" exempt pre-requisites for the most obvious things (operating systems, JREs), so that projects don't have this additional hoop to jump through.

I gathered the list below from looking at our most recent integration build. I'm not attempting to capture historical information, but just what we intend to reference in the Helios release.


"Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent by: eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

01/20/2010 04:07 PM

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RE: [eclipse-pmc] Documenting dependencies on operating systems        andJRE's

Hi John,
have you had contact with the EMO already regarding this "documenting exempt pre-reqs"
process? As per the policy you cited, the policy is only meant as a "framework for interpretation".
So before we go into great lengths entering CQ's which are hard to keep exact, let's ensure we
know what is really needed. I personally do not see much value in documenting the obvious.
For instance, in terms of the Linux kernel, do we already document pre-reqs like X Window,
GTK+, ... or, what was the last version of Eclipse that was actually known to run on QNX?
Where should we start and where should we end?
In my understanding, the policy was made to ensure that commercial adopters of Eclipse
technology are not forced into downloading / bundling dubious additional software that is
nowhere documented. In terms of the OS and core UI libs, I do not see such a risk.

From: eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Arthorne
Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:38 PM
[eclipse-pmc] Documenting dependencies on operating systems andJRE's

It has come to my attention that we must enter CQ's for all dependencies on third party software that we reference, including operating systems and JRE's [1]. I had previously thought that exempt pre-reqs didn't require a CQ. Furthermore, the policy says:

"These discussions and decisions must occur transparently either via email on the public PMC mailing list, or in the minutes of meetings distributed to the public PMC mailing list."

I am writing this email to satisfy the above requirement. I would like to declare an "exempt pre-req" dependency for the Eclipse project on the following:

Windows (CE, XP, Vista, or 7)

Linux Kernel 2.6

Mac OS X 10.5 or greater

Sun Solaris 10 or greater

HPUX 11i v2 or greater

IBM AIX 5.3 or greater

QNX Photon

Java Runtime Environment 1.4.2 or greater

Since the CQ deadline for Helios is Feb. 5th, I'd like to submit a CQ for these as soon as possible. Please respond here with any comments, concerns, additions, or corrections. If I hear no objections or corrections before February 1st, I will assume all is well and I will enter the CQ.


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