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[e4-dev] Re: [wtp-pmc] Proposal for JSDT as a project
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Mike Milinkovich wrote:
The phrase “...the JavaScript debugging support currently being
developed within the e4 Project...” caught my eye.
IMHO, e4 needs a “killer app” in the way that JDT was for the original
Eclipse versions. I’ve hold little hope that the JDT project in its
current form could fill that role.
The killer app for the original release was, IMHO, everything it
contained: the combination of a cross-platform high performance
widget set, the JFace abstractions on top of it, the astonishingly
good Java tools, the PDE, documentation, and other things I'm sure
I'm forgetting, all working in concert. I don't know that this
project alone can be that, nor do I think any single project can
claim to be that in the increasingly diverse Eclipse ecosystem. The
movement of the debugging support is, as in other cases, happening
because it can safely be run on the 3.x platform. Work on
supporting bundles written in JavaScript is very likely to remain in
e4, at least through Helios.
Is a native e4 implementation (e.g. one not relying upon the 3.x
compatibility platform) of these JavaScript tools within the scope of
this project? Is aligning the release schedule of this project with e4
part of the plan?
It's neither part of the scope nor specifically excluded from it,
but I hadn't thought to have it in our plan for this June. Getting
us to a JDT level of polish by then is our main focus, and that's no
small feat. If the proposal draws the attention of contributors who
want to aid in such an effort while keeping JSDT runnable on 3.6,
I'd definitely be open to reevaluating that position.
I would also note that this project lacks diversity. All of the
committers are from IBM. Who else wants to step up to participate? Can
we please (pretty please!) endeavour to create more diversity on this
project before it is formally created?
I'm working on an updated version to address Neil's specificity
questions, and to list at add a non-IBMer as an interested party.
However, I will be limiting the initial list of committers to folks
who are bringing in code that they're going to keep working on,
which I believe is how things are also handled in e4-land. Anything
less would feel disrespectful to the folks who earned their
Committer privileges during the time that JSDT has been a shipping
component of WTP Source Editing.
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Nitin Dahyabhai
Eclipse WTP Source Editing
IBM Rational
