Re: [e4-dev] Modeled UI element names and SWT clash

[Eric Moffatt <emoffatt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for the quick input folks! Since
I haven't seen anything against 'M' I'll change the model to the 'M'model
today...

At this point we should all consider
the model to be fairly plastic. If this change turns out to be bad for
some reason then we can always find another approach. One of the major
advantages of working in a model driven space is that cosmetic changes
(and also most structural changes) are relatively easy to make and carry
less risk of affecting working code. Currently we have so little code relying
on the model specifics that we can make such changes easily. Now is the
time to make changes; as we progress and more code is being written against
the model this will become increasingly difficult (as it should) until
it becomes the firmly set concrete we call 'API'. 

What do you all think about holding
a model review meeting, perhaps immediately after each e4 Milestone? This
would give us all an opportunity to discuss not only the model's structure
but also techniques for working with it. If you'd like to be part of this
discussion get back to me and I'll add you to the list (Tom, Boris and
Marcelo Paternostro are already on it but the more the merrier).

Thanks again,
Eric

Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Martin,

It's the other way round you *only* programm against M* and don't bother
anymore which SWT-Control you are modifing. MView e.g. is the
compareable to IViewPart in the current API.

Tom

Oberhuber, Martin schrieb:
> So, just for clarity of those not that intimately in touch with Modeled
> UI, what would a few examples be like?
>  
> MMenu, MMenuItem, MToolTip, MWorkbenchWindow, ... ?
>  
> What is the semantics of the M* variants compared to the original
ones?
> Would anybody ever hand-write any code against the M* variants, or
are
> these just generated anyways?
> Will they be public (Javadoc'd) API?
>  
> Cheers,
> --
> *Martin Oberhuber*, Senior Member of Technical Staff, *Wind River*
> Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
>  
>  
> 
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>     *From:* e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     [mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Eric
Moffatt
>     *Sent:* Freitag, 30. Jänner 2009 19:36
>     *To:* e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     *Subject:* [e4-dev] Modeled UI element names and SWT
clash
> 
> 
>     While working away on the compatibility I've (finally)
reached the
>     point where Paul and I are starting to get the Menu/Toolbar
story
>     together but we've hit a snag. The current model's elements
such as
>     Menu, MenuItem...clash with the existing SWT classes,
making it very
>     difficult to wotk on the code.
> 
>     We'd like to change the model so that we don't have
these clashes
>     and would happily take suggestions on what to do and/or
if anyone
>     thinks that changing these is an issue.
> 
>     After talking with Boris and Paul the best we've got
so far is to
>     add a 'prefix' letter to all the model elements; 'M'
for model, 'E'
>     to match EMF's types, 'E4'. <insert your facorite
char here>
> 
>     Which one is best?
>     Does anyone have another strategy?
>     Is this a good idea?
> 
>     Onwards,
>     Eric
> 
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