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Re: [dsdp-pmc] RE: Tools for Mobile Web (TMW) and Blinki
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WTP provides general (platform and runtime-agnostic) web application development). Following things are in scope of MTW that do not fit under WTP:
1. Support for platform-specific APIs (at this moment most mobile platforms have their own API for things like address book access, camera management, etc.)
2. Packaging for mobile devices and deployment to mobile devices.
3. Application preview (simulation)
This things fit better under DSDP umbrella as there is certain overlap with other DSDP projects (i.e. device emulator can be used for both MTJ and MTW development).
MTW builds on top of WTP leveraging and extending its source editing tools and JSDT.
Best regards,
Eugene
On 4 May 2010 17:40, Oberhuber, Martin 
<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Interesting.
 
What about the Webtools Platform. If TMW is focused on 
development-time tooling, shouldn't it be perhaps an incubator under WTP and 
plug into the WTP infrastructure? - Explaining relationship between TMW and WTP 
in the proposal might also be a good idea.
 
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical 
Staff, Wind River
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From: Paul Beusterien [mailto:paulb@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:09 PM
To: Oberhuber, 
Martin
Cc: DSDP PMC list; Mike Milinkovich; Wayne Beaton; 
naci.dai
Subject: Tools for Mobile Web (TMW) and 
Blinki
 
I talked with Eugene Ostroukhov for more details about the 
relationship between TMW and Blinki:
Although, Tools for Mobile Web and Blinki have a bit of overlap, they are 
mostly separate, but complementary projects.
The short explanation is - think of ATF vs. JSDT. In the case of the two 
projects,  Blinki would be ATF, providing run-time and debugging services 
while TMW will provide development-time services including (but not limited 
to):
1. Web application project creation and initial contents.
2. Mobile runtime-specific extensions for JSDT (our contribution will 
include support for WRT API and we are investigating adding others like 
PhoneGap, BONDI, JIL, etc.)
3. Application packaging (TMW initially supports WRT packaging) and 
deployment (TMW supports deployment using Bluetooth)
TMW's preview and debugging currently relies on external Chrome 
installation and is based on Chrome Developer Tools. Currently Blinki focuses on 
better integration of the Chrome/WebKit with Eclipse. From the very start we 
hoped to replace external Chrome with Blinki's code (atm we really need code on 
all three major desktop platforms).
Blinki's Chrome/WebKit integration has broader potential than only for 
mobile tools. Tools for Mobile Web under Sequoyah is focused specifically on 
mobile device developers' tooling needs.
Best 
regards,
Paul
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Paul Beusterien 
<paulb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks 
  for the comments Doug and Martin.
Tools for Mobile Web works for 
  me.
There is definitely some overlap between TMW and Blinki.  In 
  some sense, TMW could be considered a reboot of Blinki.
The focus of 
  the two projects is not exactly the same.  Blinki was very focused on the 
  deployment piece of Web development, where TMW is more of an integration 
  project pulling together various open source components to produce a full IDE 
  for mobile web developers.
I'll make the fix to the mentor 
  section.  Any other volunteers?
Thanks,
Paul
  
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