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[dsdp-pmc] RE: Tools for Mobile Web (TMW) and Blinki

Interesting.
 
What about the Webtools Platform. If TMW is focused on development-time tooling, shouldn't it be perhaps an incubator under WTP and plug into the WTP infrastructure? - Explaining relationship between TMW and WTP in the proposal might also be a good idea.
 
Thanks,
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Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
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From: Paul Beusterien [mailto:paulb@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:09 PM
To: Oberhuber, Martin
Cc: DSDP PMC list; Mike Milinkovich; Wayne Beaton; naci.dai
Subject: Tools for Mobile Web (TMW) and Blinki

I talked with Eugene Ostroukhov for more details about the relationship between TMW and Blinki:

Although, Tools for Mobile Web and Blinki have a bit of overlap, they are mostly separate, but complementary projects.

The short explanation is - think of ATF vs. JSDT. In the case of the two projects,  Blinki would be ATF, providing run-time and debugging services while TMW will provide development-time services including (but not limited to):
1. Web application project creation and initial contents.
2. Mobile runtime-specific extensions for JSDT (our contribution will include support for WRT API and we are investigating adding others like PhoneGap, BONDI, JIL, etc.)
3. Application packaging (TMW initially supports WRT packaging) and deployment (TMW supports deployment using Bluetooth)

TMW's preview and debugging currently relies on external Chrome installation and is based on Chrome Developer Tools. Currently Blinki focuses on better integration of the Chrome/WebKit with Eclipse. From the very start we hoped to replace external Chrome with Blinki's code (atm we really need code on all three major desktop platforms).

Blinki's Chrome/WebKit integration has broader potential than only for mobile tools. Tools for Mobile Web under Sequoyah is focused specifically on mobile device developers' tooling needs.

Best regards,
Paul


On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Paul Beusterien <paulb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for the comments Doug and Martin.

Tools for Mobile Web works for me.

There is definitely some overlap between TMW and Blinki.  In some sense, TMW could be considered a reboot of Blinki.

The focus of the two projects is not exactly the same.  Blinki was very focused on the deployment piece of Web development, where TMW is more of an integration project pulling together various open source components to produce a full IDE for mobile web developers.

I'll make the fix to the mentor section.  Any other volunteers?

Thanks,
Paul


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Oberhuber, Martin <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Whatever the name is, please explain how it relates to Blinki:

www.eclipse.org/blinki
http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/firefly/
http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/firefly/Blinki_Creation_Review.pdf

In general, I would expect from Proposal documents that
they reference existing related technology at Eclipse
and explain how they relate to it.

Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
direct +43.662.457915.85  fax +43.662.457915.6

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Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Mike Milinkovich; Wayne Beaton
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Subject: [dsdp-pmc] Web Tools for Mobile Project

Mike, Wayne (Eric, DSDP PMC),

Please review and comment on this proposal. Thanks.

http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/wtm/


Anne Jacko
emo@xxxxxxxxxxx



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