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RE: [dsdp-pmc] TCF agent for windows: "works with" dependencyfordbghelp.dll
Hmm, another example of Eclipse legal requirements getting in the way of delivering product from eclipse.org.
 
The TCF Windows debugger will be a key component for Wascana. I should be able to redist dbghelp from there using p2. Stay tuned.
 
Doug.
 

From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CLONINGER ERIC-DCP874
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:47 AM
To: DSDP PMC list
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] TCF agent for windows: "works with" dependencyfordbghelp.dll

+1 from Eric Cloninger
 
Are there adequate instructions on the TCF web site for directing the user to the correct place?  How about in the runtime itself--can it determine that users have an inadequate version of the DLL?
 
-E

From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:35 AM
To: DSDP PMC list
Subject: [dsdp-pmc] TCF agent for windows: "works with" dependency fordbghelp.dll

Dear PMC,
 
as per the new Eclipse 3rd Party Depencencies process [1], the TM project needs to document an external dependency from the plain C TCF agent to Microsoft "dbghelp.dll".
 
dbghelp.dll is a part of Microsoft Windows, but the version that's on the OS out of the box is buggy. For the debugger to work properly at runtime, users need to go to microsoft and download the newer version (for free). The DLL is marked as "redistributable", but none the less the Eclipse Legal Team has found sections in the license that prohibit us from redistributing it directly with the Eclipse.org downloads (see CQ 2553 [1]). Thus we request now to document it as 3rd party dependency, which basically means that products that want to use the TCF exemplary windows agent would have to bundle the microsoft dbghelp.dll.
 
Since the dbghelp.dll that we need is just a version update, the TCF agent can build without the external download, it can even run without the external download (though crippled), and on platforms other than Windows the download certainly isn't needed. I think that this clearly qualifies the dbghelp.dll as a "works-with" dependency.
 
As per the 3rd party dependencies process, the DSDP PMC now needs to discuss this publicly and agree that it is indeed a "works-with" dependency. Please read the process [1] for more information about how "works-with" is defined, then respond here on the mailing list with your +1 or -1 or comments or questions.
 
 
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
 
 

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