Thanks for the meeting today. Sorry about the
technical difficulties. Skype clearly doesnt work well from my
office. Martin said he was happy with the sound quality of this bridge,
though, so Im willing to try it again. This time, Ill dial into the
regular phone number.
Ive inserted meeting notes below with action items in
red. We got through about half of the agenda. Can we meet again
next Thursday (Aug 10) at the same time? Ill send a separate
Mika, Martin, Shigeki, Christian, Mark, Doug
7:00 AM PDT
9:00 AM CDT
10:00 AM EDT
4:00 PM CEST
5:00 PM EEST
11:00 PM Japan
I have created a conference room that will allow more than
5 of us to attend but still allow us to use skype. From skype, call
+99008275948062. Its free, so you wont need skype credit. If you
cant use skype, here are some other numbers:
France: 0826 100 266
Germany 01805 00 7620
Conference Room Number : 5948062
Martin and I tested the
quality. Its not as good as direct skype, but its probably
usable. If this doesnt work, Ill look into other
Introduction to Christian and TmL
o Worked on OSGI prior to Motorola. At Mot:
Set Top boxes, Application management, Java Linux phones.
o Wants to take TmL in a emulator environment
o LinuxWorld in 2 weeks inviting others to
o Creation review goal in two
Council follow up
o Read: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/RequirementsCouncil06TP.
Come to the meeting with suggestions for additions/corrections to the
embedded device software section.
Martin: change wording of deployment
Mark: debugging integration with eRCP
debugging on a target device
Shigeki: C++ development not just for mobile
devices. Run-time libraries not part of NAB.
Mika: ok with wording
Christian: will look at this now
follow up with additions/corrections, either to me or on the Wiki
directly. Please email the group either way.
Planning for Europa
o Draft milestones
Thursday Aug. 10, 2006 - Milestone 1 (3.3 M1) -
Friday Sep. 22, 2006 - Milestone 2 (3.3 M2) - stable build
Friday Nov. 3, 2006 - Milestone 3 (3.3 M3) - stable build
15, 2006 - Milestone 4 (3.3 M4) - stable build
in July. Project planning in August. First builds in
Incubation projects can participate criteria
still being established, but see the Callisto requirements (http://www.eclipse.org/projects/callisto.php)
to understand what the bar was for the last release. Please come to the
meeting with comments.
to get on the train by the end of the year (November, ideally)
TM. Definitely wants to participate in
the Europa train. They are building 1.0 end of October built against
3.2. They want to wait until after their first release. Will get
on the train in November.
eRCP. Hopeful. Theyd like to, but
theyre not 100% sure yet. They tried to align with Callisto, but
slipped a couple of months. Would add Series 60 support after their 1.0
release. Will be ready by November, so they could sync up. They
also want to sync up platform support with 3.3.
DD. Hopeful. Need to get DSF on
NAB. Hopeful. Planning major
enhancements after the first milestone. Synchronize by
TmL. No. Not realistic at this
point, but may be able to join early next year if its allowed.
MTJ. Not sure. Will try for the end
of year, but still worried about Due Diligence.
Email alias to
group. Each project will need a build representative, and we should
coordinate internally in the DSDP project to help each other with the learning
o Europa Build Workshop (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Europa_Build_Workshop)
Registration Deadline: Aug 12
Engineer from WR will go, likely someone from
else is going? This is an important workshop for getting on the Europa
Mika will see if they
can send someone.
o Updating your project plans and aligning with
think most of our project plans are stale. Now that were looking at
Europa, we need to get the plans updated and aligned with
Quick status update from all
o DSF commit
o Move to DSDP infrastructure move is
done. Download site is pending.
o 1.0 Release review
Aug 9 shutdown process starts only approved
RC1 3rd week of August
RC2 end of August (only if required)
September 6 is the latest possible release
Schedule Release review this week, will take place two
weeks from now.
Qte implementation approval is complete
o Blog maybe setup one with
o Still working on EclipseME contributions (due
diligence). They are hoping that its close to being
o Will complete everything else by first
o Japanese help files released
o Discussing next release.
o Lots of cleanup lately. M4 coming (API
o Not as much community feedback as Martin had
hoped for. Had an encouraging call with Ericsson today, and they are
interested in participating.
o Still on track for the release.
o Just getting started. Christian is
shedding some other tasks right now.
Doug recommends that
all of the project leads setup blogs and tie into the Eclipse
aggregator. Its another communications channel outside of
newsgroups and mail.
(for next meeting)
o DSDP Japan Aug 2 (yesterday)
Update from Shigeki perhaps you can send an
email update prior to the meeting.
o Summit Europe (http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2006/)
have submitted a talk (http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-pmc/msg00133.html).
Michael Scharf (WR-rep arch council) will
o ESC West
Submission deadline: Sept 8
to the meeting with some ideas
o EclipseCon 2007
tutorial slot possibility
Review of allocations for mobile/embedded
o Update on Dougs press interviews (still not
IP policy transparency: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=151323
DSDP Info center
o Martins instructions: http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-pmc/msg00129.html
o Project plans?
o Account setup?
Transparency in development discussions
o The importance of dev lists, even for
developers from the same company.
o Project visibility and status.
o Next scheduled meeting: Sept 7
o Meeting times with the time zone
o Face-to-face PMC meeting?
o Staying connected
o Other business?