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RE: [dsdp-dd-dev] RE: DSDP DD/TM Launching Initiatives

Hi Chris,

thanks for your feedback.

Unfortunately, you haven't seen my presentation on Thursday,
and I haven't seen Darins presentation on Wednesday. Perhaps
Pete Nicholls, or Paul Gingrich have seen both of them?
What's important for me now, is to know what requirements 
you have and what you're up to -- your E-Mail is a great
first hint.

Have a look at my presentation on Component Based Launching:

The basic idea is, that a Launch should be constructed by
components (or "actions") that can be contributed individually
by extension point.

In your case, it appears that "JTAG scanchain setup" and
"scripted target manipulation" would make up two nice 
Launch Components.

Your components could then be used in off-the-shelf Launches,
or customized Launches that only TI provides.

What do you think?

We've come up with the idea of component-based launches 
because we've seen how complex our Launches ended up to 
be in our products, and it appears that only components
can help to ensure maximum re-use.

I'd be happy to hook up on the phone if you want to know more.

Martin Oberhuber - WindRiver, Austria

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dsdp-dd-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:dsdp-dd-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Recoskie, Chris
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:48 PM
> To: Oberhuber, Martin; Peter Nicholls
> Cc: Target Management developer discussions; dsdp-dd-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dsdp-dd-dev] RE: DSDP DD/TM Launching Initiatives
> I think it makes sense to co-ordinate.  I don't think we've 
> given it all
> too much thought yet.  I think it probably makes sense if there are a
> few different launch paradigms from which users can pick and 
> choose.  I
> think the initial goal is to look at the new launch framework 
> Darin has
> implemented for resource based launches and see how that can be taken
> advantage of.
> For our part at TI for instance, our current Eclipse-based product has
> an extremely simplified debug flow.  At project creation time we force
> the user to specify a target device, and that is used to configure the
> default debugging parameters.  There is a notion of an 
> "Active Project"
> and active project configuration (if using Managed Build).  When the
> user clicks the "Debug Active Project" button, the active project is
> incrementally built and then launched according to the current debug
> settings for that.  The user can go into the debug configuration
> property pages and change which communication channel they are using.
> It might make sense for this type of launch to somehow be based in the
> future on these resource-based launches.
> For future projects, we will need a more complicated flow that allows
> for the configuration of JTAG scan chains, scripted 
> manipulations of the
> target hardware to facilitate hardware bringup during launching, etc.
> We would want a way of launching debug sessions for hardware both with
> and without projects, and we would probably want to continue 
> to have our
> Debug Active Project concept apply somehow to this as well, 
> even if it's
> not the only way to launch things.  We have not entirely 
> thought all of
> this through yet.
> ___________________________________________
> Chris Recoskie
> Software Designer
> Texas Instruments, Toronto
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oberhuber, Martin [mailto:Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:17 PM
> > To: Peter Nicholls; Recoskie, Chris
> > Cc: Target Management developer discussions; dsdp-dd-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: DSDP DD/TM Launching Initiatives
> > 
> > Hello Pete and Chris,
> > 
> > from the DD meeting minutes I figured out that a DD Launching
> initiative
> > has been formed.
> > 
> > We're also working on Launching for the TM project. See
> >
> > for a first pointer. Thus I thought we should coordinate.
> > 
> > * What are your ideas, plans and goals for the DD Launching 
> technology
> >   sub-group?
> > * I don't have E-mail addresses for the folk at TI except chris;
> >   could the folk interested in Launching please respond to me?
> > * Would it make sense to merge the DD and TM technology sub-groups
> >   for Launching?
> > 
> > If you do have a lot of ideas and plans but find it difficult
> > writing them down in an E-Mail, we could hook up on the phone.
> > Feel free to suggest a time in this case. My Skype ID is
> > Martin.Oberhuber if you want to do it by Skype.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Martin
> > 
> > --
> >
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