Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] CVS support plugin discontinuation - SimR

[Alexander Fedorov <alexander.fedorov@xxxxxxxxxx>]

    Hello,
    
    Great discussion. 
    
    > Removal in January 2022 for upcoming 4.23, 2 major releases
    later
    > Breakage found January 2023 on 4.26, 3 major releases later
    
    Formally, the 4.x releases on the page
    https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/eclipse are all marked as
    "Minor Release".
    How did they become "major"? If they are "major" without
    incrementing "major" segment, then who are "minor"? What about PDE
    API tools?
    
    Regards,
    AF

1/3/2023 5:45 PM, Andrey Loskutov пишет:

Ed,

 

you still can use CVS plugins with 4.25 platform.

 

For the rest: there is no "free beer" anymore in platform.

 

"Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих".

 

If you (or anyone else) want / need CVS (or XYZ) being supported by platform, please consider to contribute to the CVS (XYZ) plugin maintenance.

Eclipse platform is open source project and everyone can spend time or money to improve on some aspect of it.

But one can't expect from the platform project to support every released piece of software "for free" forever.

 

Kind regards,
Andrey Loskutov

Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих

https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov

 

 

Gesendet: Dienstag, 03. Januar 2023 um 15:32 Uhr
Von: "Ed Willink" <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
An: "Cross project issues" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Betreff: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] CVS support plugin discontinuation - SimRel build changes needed

Hi

4.21 to 4.23 is two minor releases and only six months; nothing in terms of a transition period.

It takes a change to 6.x to be two major releases.

    Regards

        Ed Willink

 

On 03/01/2023 14:24, Mickael Istria wrote:

 

 

On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 3:12 PM Ed Willink <ed.willink@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I thought that Open Source was friendly; not a facilitator for a
proprietary business case.

 

Well, sometimes allowing contributors to make money from their work is actually one way to try being friendly.

But indeed, if one wants to do that work for free, that's even friendlier.

 

My understanding of the disciplined deprecation was that two major
releases were required after an announcement, but since e6 is impossibly
distant the platform has taken to breakage in minor versions.
Nonetheless I would expect two releases on the yearly cadence so
breakage within 18 months seems very wrong and to merit a regression fix.

 

Deprecation announced in September 2021 (4.21)

Removal in January 2022 for upcoming 4.23, 2 major releases later

Breakage found January 2023 on 4.26, 3 major releases later

 

The cadence is described at https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/eclipse

 

Ultimately, there is a clear law of software development: unmaintained software that no-one builds or updates against newer version of its dependencies will die; only software that someone maintains actively survives. It's not a matter of process here, but a matter of interest in maintaining it. If some money can be found to boost interest from someone in maintaining here, then we all win.

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