Hi
We (EMF Parsley) depend on Xtext as
well (besides EMF). It's not clear
to me what we should do... add our p2
site to the simrel and push for
review and that will fail? Or
something else?
thanks in advance
Lorenzo
On 09/08/2016 18:10, Ed Willink wrote:
> Hi
>
> What if e.g. UML went AWOL?
>
> This is exactly what happened a
few years ago when OCL went
> committer-less. So many projects
depended and wanted to help that
> someone had to get the rule book
out and decide that since Eclipse is a
> meritocracy, that the active
Bugzilla contributors took precedence
over
> panicking companies.
>
> The same would happen again for
any +1 and probably +2 project.
>
> Clients have three options:
>
> - just occasionally a dependency
can be eliminated
>
> - just occasionally a dependency
can be rewritten, but it may take many
> man years of effort
>
> - much more practically a
dependency gets rescued and put on
minimal
> maintenance (e.g. EMFq, EMFt,
EMFv).
>
> So by pretending that we must
wait for +1/+2 dependencies, we waste
a
> lot of time for those who are
trying to contribute. It is just not
real.
> +1/+2's should carry over
automatically.
>
> You suggest that we should notify
dependencies that we are waiting. Are
> you joking? Why should I waste my
time and EMF's time by suggesting that
> it is about time for them to
contribute. EMF is a -1/+1
contribution. Of
> course it should know that it
should contribute.
>
> Regards
>
> Ed Willink
>
> On 09/08/2016 16:10, David M
Williams wrote:
>> I am sure improvements can be
made, but the key -- from my point of
>> view -- is that projects
smooth out their processes and
dependencies,
>> rather than "the big guy in
the sky" blindly makes everything work
>> just fine for everyone by
making a lot of assumptions that may
or may
>> not be accurate. To force
something positive out of this
difficult
>> period of time, it does give
projects an opportunity to think
through
>> your dependencies and if you
really want or have to depend on them.
>> For one, completely made up
example, what would you do if "UML
>> Project" decided not to
participate any more? What if it was
>> "terminated"? What is your
contingency plan? Does something need
to be
>> refactored? Made optional?
Or, perhaps even move to some other
project?
>
>
>
>
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