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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] New UUID in Eclipse Platform

I'm neither for or against this. I do agree the communication was late. It probably would have been better to not tell us at all :).

I do see the need for recognizing individual installs though. Tracking IP address as we've done to date hides a lot of data behind corporate firewalls that present a single address for all their employees.

I think it's critical we know how many individual users are using Eclipse. Is Eclipse usage really on the decline? Are all those downloads legitimate users or are they bots? I see a lot of statements made from the Eclipse community assuming one way or the other. I would be great to be able to call them out with real numbers.


On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I agree with two concerns raised so far:

- communication way too late in the cycle
- opt-out instead of opt-in

I do understand that opt-in renders the feature pretty much useless.

On 04 Jun 2016, at 13:42, Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We have no interest or plans to profile actual individuals. We are looking
at aggregate data. 

I'm trying to understand why a UUID is necessary when you are looking at aggregate data. Do you have some sample reports/analysis for sharing? I'm really unable to connect the pieces of that puzzle. Maybe an example can help me understand.

Also, have you investigated using an anonymized (hashed version) IP address that is sent by the clients anyway? Splunk should well be able to handle that.

I also suggest to learn from history:

I bet they still have that UUID. But that's a use case I could understand. Even though I don't think that a UUID is really necessary to confirm successful installations/updates of a product.


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