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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] jdt.core move to Java 7 BREE

Hi Ed

We always publish our plan and all updates to the 'eclipse-dev' list. The next plan update will be for M6. You can also follow the plan update discussions in the corresponding plan update bugzillas in the Platform PMC component. The one for M6 is https://bugs.eclipse.org/458730. As Alex mentioned, that will also update the appendix with the BREEs.

Note that besides the supported target environments of the Platform, there is usually also a discussion what the lowest JRE is for the packages (EPPs). This is decided by the package maintainers. For Luna most were already requiring JRE 7.

As for why we didn't send a note, simply because we changed bundle BREEs many times in the past years without ever announcing it.

Sorry if this caused any troubles for you!
Dani



From:        Ed Willink <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date:        05.03.2015 08:17
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] jdt.core move to Java 7 BREE
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Hi

I think that this thread is about both.

Nobody has advanced a strong argument for retaining Java 6 support, so we can move on without upsetting anybody.

Doug: if you examine the tabulated per-plugin BREEs in the platform project plan you will see a clear indication that jdt.core is 1.6. (The only 1.7 is the filesystem.java7 bundle.)

Therefore IMHO this change should have been announced:

a) because it was a change to the platform project plan
b) because it clearly has an impact on many other projects

    Regards

        Ed Willink

On 05/03/2015 01:02, Ian Bull wrote:
Is this thread about what minimum BREE to use, or is it about announcing changes to this? I agree with most people here that Java 7 is a sensible minimum BREE for Mars, but I get the sense that this thread was more about how / where these changes are announced.

Cheers,
Ian

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Am 04.03.2015 um 13:53 schrieb Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> On 04/03/2015 4:15 PM, Martin Lippert wrote:
>> I am not sure whether this “end of public updates” date reflects what is going on inside organizations.
>> Oracle still offers support for Java6 until Dec 2015, and extended support for Dec 2018.
>>
>>
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html#java-commercial-offerings
>
> Sure. And I'm also sure if you pay Microsoft enough money you can get support for Windows XP as well. That doesn't make it current.

And we have a solution for this too --> LTS. If someone wants support for Eclipse for an older version of Java, then LTS would be the obvious recommendation. :)

> I guess we just need to come up with a common definition of what we mean by "current version".

I say: it should be every version receiving security updates public and free accessible for the community (committers, contributors and users). As of May 2015, Java 7 will fall out of that list. But that's just my two cents.


-Gunnar


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