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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the release train

> I only ever see the Platform/JDT N&N in web page form. How is this web page constructed? Is it just done by hand, or is it somehow automatically generated from some data source?

We write it by hand as HTML.


On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree with Dani. Each project's N&N should be project-specific.

I only ever see the Platform/JDT N&N in web page form. How is this web page constructed? Is it just done by hand, or is it somehow automatically generated from some data source?

The ideal, I think, would be to have a common form for feature information that is maintained by each project based, perhaps, around the features that they provide. With something like this in place, we'd have a fighting chance of aggregating it in a meaningful/useful manner and keeping it up-to-date.

e.g. some kind of record with a title, html fragment with zero or more images, and a "since" tag that we can compare against the feature version to determine what features are new. We could use this to generate a complete feature list and a N&N list.

Maybe this is just an XML file that we keep with each feature.

Thoughts?

Wayne



On 02/02/15 05:35 AM, Daniel Megert wrote:
> I think the correct solution would be to extend the purpose of the Platform N&N to include newsitems from the EPP side.

No, that is not the correct solution. The EPP/main download side can have and advertise a joint N&N.

Dani



From:        Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        02.02.2015 11:15
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the release train
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Hi Marcel,

I think the correct solution would be to extend the purpose of the Platform N&N to include newsitems from the EPP side.

Best regards, Lars


On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Marcel Bruch <marcel.bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings cross-projects,

I’d like to get your thoughts about a joint N&N page for Mars Milestones.

The platform maintains a N&N page [1] for changes on the Platform/JDT/PDE. All press releases, blogs and tweets about new milestones are pointing to this page and as such it is the most prominent place to present new features, what’s new and upcoming in Eclipse.

However, IMHO there are much more noteworthy things to talk about. For instance, the addition of the automated error reporting in all EPP packages is such a noteworthy item but it cannot be published on that page because it does not belong to the SDK. I guess many projects have interesting N&N as well. While larger projects with a community/ popular webpage will certainly write a blog post about their new features. Smaller ones with no prominent website or large community lack such a space. In addition, bloggers etc. will certainly not browse all project blogs to find all N&Ns. 

Thus I wonder whether we should have a joint N&N page for the whole release train where every participating project could put, say, up to 3 items per Milestone release with a picture and a short paragraph (as the SDK already does).

What do others think?


Marcel



P.S.: FWIW, every EPP package download page *has* a N&N link in the side menu where EPP packages can add their N&N links. However, it’s not used much and likely is not very popular (at least I assume that b/c I noticed it the very first time today).

[1] https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.5/M5/


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