If the user initiates an install operation with full understanding
that they are contacting an Eclipse Foundation server to download
some artefact, then it is perfectly reasonable (in my opinion) for
them to expect that we're keeping track of the fact that that thing
has been downloaded.
Doesn't the p2 mechanism do this?
Or are you looking for more than that? It's one thing to download an
artefact, but quite a different thing to be notified that it's
actually being used. Is this what you're looking for? Are we talking
about a per-use notification, or periodic heartbeat? In my mind, any
ongoing "I'm using this feature now" sort of thing is very different
from a user-initiated installation/update process.
I understand the desire to make it opt-out. Using an opt-in strategy
severely diminishes the value of the gathered information.
Creation of a "call home" policy is being discussed in Bug 413169
[1].
Wayne
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=413169
On 09/05/2013 07:44 AM, Igor Fedorenko
wrote:
On 2013-09-05 4:00 AM, Markus Alexander Kuppe wrote:
On 09/05/2013 02:14 AM, Igor Fedorenko
wrote:
* There will be workspace preference to
enable the counting, it will be
on by default.
Does this mean that the plug-in collects statistics even if the
user
does not opt-in to send stats?
No, I think nothing should recoded locally if the user decides to
opt-out.
* When the plugin first starts, it will
inform the user about the
counting via a popup dialog or some other UI means and the
user will
have a choice to either acknowledge the counting or navigate
to
corresponding preferences page and disable counting there.
From what you describe it appears as if "no - do not opt-in"
requires
more clicks than "yes - opt-in". If this assumption is correct,
then why?
Quite honestly, I want installation count report to be allowed if
the
user chooses not to think. I am open for discussion here and if
the
consensus is to make this single-click to both opt-in and opt-out,
I am
fine with it too.
Personally, though, I think Eclipse Foundation should allow
installation
report without explicit opt-in but still require a way to allow
opt-out.
This is what p2 is doing since 2010, so ability to opt-out will be
an
improvement compared to what we have now.
--
Regards,
Igor
M.
[1] http://bugs.eclipse.org/413169
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