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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Are too many packages actually hurting Eclipse?

Coming a little late into this discussion, but I wanted to talk about
a few misconceptions regarding IntelliJ.

JetBrains sells 5 IDEs (one each for Java/Groovy/Scala, php, python,
ruby, and JS/HTML5). In
addition, there are free ones for Java, and a couple of in house
languages.  All of these IDEs are built on the same core platform.
The a big difference Eclipse's distros is that with IntelliJ's model,
you cannot install one package into another (advantage-Eclipse).

Now, there is a more fundamental difference between Eclipse and
IntelliJ.  How is it that the Community Edition of IDEA installer can
be 273 Mb, but the equivalent Eclipse package (including m2e,
ScalaIde, Groovy-Eclipse, and other tools) would be twice that? (I
don't know off-hand how large the Ultimate edition is, but I would
expect that it is way smaller than Eclipse would be.) The answer is in
the way that IDEA integrates with tools and frameworks and is really
outside the scope of this conversation.  But the result is that they
can ship the same functionality at a significantly smaller size
(advantage JetBrains).

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 30/07/2013 12:04 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
>> Given there is still a huge majority of users that aren't on Linux, we
>> need a solution that runs on those other platforms. The more I think of it
>> and read the discussion here, the more I think it would be great to have an
>> Eclipse IDE installer/bootstrap UI thing that made it really easy for new
>> users, and veteran ones :) to pick the "components" they want in their IDE.
> +1 a better install experience would be awesome!
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